"This is the end of the world as we know it" GAMETHREAD 8.2.10

[SamBam39]

Theme? I don't know nothing 'bout no stinkin' theme.

Need to keep winning and hope for the best.



...or worst! ;)

[nomars_girl]

And I feel fine.

[Mikiemo83]

That's great, it starts with an losing streak, strikes and balls, a grandslam-
Tito Francona is not afraid. Eye of a Papelbon, listen to your gut churn -
'pen serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a bat,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Minor structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Hit on a wire, represent the seven games in a bullpen by committee
and a bad Idea. Left Field, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, ump, coaches
flop. Look at that low strike! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. Nation serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

[SamBam39]

Nice mikie!

[Joolz]

Brilliant Mikie!

Sidenote: Thanks for the earworm that will last all day. :)

[Mikiemo83]

Brilliant Mikie!

Sidenote: Thanks for the earworm that will last all day. :)would you prefer a filet o' fish song?

[a700hitter]

RED SOX (60-45)

Scutaro SS
Drew RF
Youkilis 1B
Ortiz DH
Martinez 1B
Beltre 3B
Kalish LF
Hall 2B
Patterson CF

Pitching: RHP John Lackey (10-5, 4.26)

INDIANS (44-61)

Crowe CF
Cabrera SS
Choo RF
Santana C
LaPorta 1B
Brown DH
Duncan LF
Nix 3B
Donald 2B

Pitching: RHP Fausto Carmona (10-8, 3.92)

More Patterson. Ughh!!!

[Boomer]

I'd rather see Darnell and Jed in the line-up but I guess Hall has been kind of productive of late so I can understand him playing. Patterson, not so much.

[a700hitter]

I'd rather see Darnell and Jed in the line-up but I guess Hall has been kind of productive of late so I can understand him playing. Patterson, not so much.Plus Hall is a disaster at 2B.

[taltos]

I didn't know that you could play without a catcher.:fart::rofl::rofl:

[a700hitter]

I didn't know that you could play without a catcher.:fart::rofl::rofl:Holy crap! I hope that Tito spotted that before it is submitted. That idiot Maddon did something like that last year and he had to play withouta DH. Someone call Fenway before it is too late!!!

[a700hitter]

Holy crap! I hope that Tito spotted that before it is submitted. That idiot Maddon did something like that last year and he had to play withouta DH. Someone call Fenway before it is too late!!!It was corrected on Boston.com. Let's hope that it wasn't Tito's typo on the lineup card.

[FramCire]

Yahoo and boston.com are both well known for typos as they try to get information out quickly.

[nomars_girl]

Yahoo and boston.com are both well known for typos as they try to get information out quickly.


Welcome!!! hey everyone! This is FramCire. He's a good loyal Red Sox fan. We go way back from the old ESPN boards and a little board like this called the 406club.

[Joolz]

Yahoo and boston.com are both well known for typos as they try to get information out quickly.

:smilies-11117: Glad to have you with us. Enjoy!

[Boomer]

Yahoo and boston.com are both well known for typos as they try to get information out quickly.

Welcome! I look forward to you posting everyday and joining us on the game threads. You come well recommended!


Sit back and have a few! Let's have some fun.:party::icon_eyes

[dunaja]

That's me in the corner.
That's me in the spotlight...

...wrong song.

[Boomer]

That's me in the corner.
That's me in the spotlight...

...wrong song.


What songs are you referring to?

An old man would like to know.

Please tell me.:notworthy:

[dunaja]

What songs are you referring to?

An old man would like to know.

Please tell me.:notworthy:

The thread topic refers to "It's the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)" by R.E.M.

My post was "Losing My Religion" by R.E.M.

[Boomer]

The thread topic refers to "It's the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)" by R.E.M.

My post was "Losing My Religion" by R.E.M.


Ahhhhh.....


Thank you. Now I remember.

[Boomer]

Nice stroke by Ortiz. Nice play off the wall by Duncan.

[Boomer]

1-0 Sox.

Nice play by Chu (or whater ever his name is!).

[dunaja]

We are losing to a last-place team that recently traded away any glimmer of talent it had in its organization.

I think the nine players on the field now won a "Cleveland Indian for a day!" contest with the Ohio state lottery.

*sigh*

[Mikiemo83]

Yahoo and boston.com are both well known for typos as they try to get information out quickly.

Welcome to the planet

[Mikiemo83]

Shelly Duncan makes me think of Peter Pan

Maybe I lost me marbles

[SamBam39]

Really at home against the Indians???? I mean really?????

[nomars_girl]

I ran out to buy ice cream and you let the game get away from us? Honestly, can't leave you guys alone for five minutes.

[SamBam39]

It is really sad. We've been waiting for them to get healthy and when they finally do they are going to lose the season to sub 500 teams. What a downer.

[a700hitter]

The Yankees are getting their butts whipped and we can'[t beat this garbage team to pick up ground. They are not even working Carmona to get his pitch count up.

[a700hitter]

Wakefield = White Flag. I'll watch a different game. This is pointless.

[SamBam39]

I am very sad right now. I think the reality is dawning that they really aren't going to do it this year. I don't know. Just doesn't feel right.

[SamBam39]

How seriously is Youks hurt?

[sprocketboy]

That's great, it starts with an losing streak, strikes and balls, a grandslam-
Tito Francona is not afraid. Eye of a Papelbon, listen to your gut churn -
'pen serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a bat,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Minor structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Hit on a wire, represent the seven games in a bullpen by committee
and a bad Idea. Left Field, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, ump, coaches
flop. Look at that low strike! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. Nation serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

Seven Chinese pitchers swallowing the bullpen?

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[a700hitter]

Clean play by Kalish, but it reminds me of Fisk's knee injury when LeRon Lee slid into him in 1973 or 4. He's hurt bad. That's really a shame.

[SamBam39]

Jesus I really HATE this team more and more every day. Now who is hurt Kalish?

[Mikiemo83]

jesus i really hate this team more and more every day. Now who is hurt kalish?not kalish, he just blew the knee out of the catcher

[SamBam39]

Oh Santana's hurt? F him. Sox have had more than their share.

And the worst 3b coach in baseball strikes again. Tim Bogar. He needs to go.

[sprocketboy]

This kid Santana was suns' big hope for the Tribe's future.

It's gonna suck if he's not back in time for Spring Training next year, at the latest.

[SamBam39]

The Red Sox for me this year are like a car crash. As bad as it is I just can't look away. I want to. But I have to look. And just like a car crash it is oh so ugly.

[a700hitter]

Oh Santana's hurt? F him. Sox have had more than their share.

And the worst 3b coach in baseball strikes again. Tim Bogar. He needs to go.I was saying that after he cost us 2 or 3 wins in April. Why not swap him and the first base coach.

[sprocketboy]

You have to admit, though, the Pride of Buckeye, Arizona (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700036255/Indians-star-Shin-Soo-Choo-has-a-future-filled-with-promise-and-duty.html) has a hell of an arm.

[SamBam39]

You have to admit, though, the Pride of Buckeye, Arizona (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700036255/Indians-star-Shin-Soo-Choo-has-a-future-filled-with-promise-and-duty.html) has a hell of an arm.
sb no disrespect, but I really don't give a crap.

[3 Point Stan]

Oh Santana's hurt? F him.
I can't say that. That was a gut-wrenching injury.

I feel awful for this kid. Looked devastating.

[SamBam39]

I can't say that. That was a gut-wrenching injury.

I feel awful for this kid. Looked devastating. He'll be fine. That's the breaks of the game. I'm sure there weren't any Indians fans crying over Pedroia, Varitek, Martinez, Beckett, Ellsbury, Lowell, Cameron et al.

[a700hitter]

He'll be fine. That's the breaks of the game. I'm sure there weren't any Indians fans crying over Pedroia, Varitek, Martinez, Beckett, Ellsbury, Lowell, Cameron et al.I understand that you are not in the best of moods these days. Neither am I as I see the season slipping away. At times like this, I'd like to see the entire yankee team get pilots licenses. I think the difference between Santana's injury and those suffered by our guys is that his injury will take much much longer for recovery and it really could impair his ability to perform. To see that happen to such a young prime prospect is very sad. It was sad when it happened to Fisk. I am sure all baseball fans were saddened by what what happened to Ryan Westmoreland.

[Boomer]

Clean play by Kalish, but it reminds me of Fisk's knee injury when LeRon Lee slid into him in 1973 or 4. He's hurt bad. That's really a shame.

Yup. I want the Sox to win, but I don't want anyone to get hurt to make it happen. I hope he's OK. But it does not look that way. He's messed-up.

[a700hitter]

The team continues to ride Ortiz's back. 1st and 2nd with 1 out. It's time for Bogar the Boogie Man to get a runner tossed out at home.

[Boomer]

The Dominican Destroyer strikes again!

Better to have 3 runs than five broken ribs!

[a700hitter]

A 1 run game after Beltre's blast. If we lose by one run, I think we can hang this loss on Bogar. Hasn't he done enough damage to this team?

[Mikiemo83]

I was saying that after he cost us 2 or 3 wins in April. Why not swap him and the first base coach.man I almost miss wave 'em in wendell

[a700hitter]

Kalish is raking tonight.

[Boomer]

Kalish sucks!

Send him down!

[a700hitter]

Who is Cleveland's Closer since Wood is gone?

[sprocketboy]

sb no disrespect, but I really don't give a crap.

None taken.

And you will when the Red Sox make a play for him in the future.

[Boomer]

A 1 run game after Beltre's blast. If we lose by one run, I think we can hang this loss on Bogar. Hasn't he done enough damage to this team?

No!:icon_toil

[sprocketboy]

Youkilis is on the bench playing coach.

That's a good sign, isn't it?

[Boomer]

Youkilis is on the bench playing coach.

That's a good sign, isn't it?


NO!!!!!

Sox loose.

Oye.

[sprocketboy]

NO!!!!!

Sox loose.

Oye.

I once saw Mario Lemieux score 3 goals and 2 assists against the Bruins ... but his team lost the game 6-5.

I think Beltre could sympathize with him, now.

Gah.

[3 Point Stan]

He'll be fine.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dr. Pappas.
That's the breaks of the game. I'm sure there weren't any Indians fans crying over Pedroia, Varitek, Martinez, Beckett, Ellsbury, Lowell, Cameron et al.
I don't care if they cry, but I would care if an opposing fan was that benign about an injury of that caliber though.

When A-Rod pulls a hamstring and can't play against the Sox, that's one thing... When a highly-touted catching prospect of a rebuilding, bottom-feeder team suffers what appears to be a career-threatening injury?

[sprocketboy]

They have a video of Santana's injury play up on mlb.com (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10545643) now. Warning: not for the squeamish.

The first thought that popped up in my head when I saw the video? Joe Thiesman.

[Joolz]

I can't say that. That was a gut-wrenching injury.

I feel awful for this kid. Looked devastating.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dr. Pappas.

I don't care if they cry, but I would care if an opposing fan was that benign about an injury of that caliber though.

When A-Rod pulls a hamstring and can't play against the Sox, that's one thing... When a highly-touted catching prospect of a rebuilding, bottom-feeder team suffers what appears to be a career-threatening injury?

I'm with you on this one, Stan. In addition, I found the need for NESN to dwell on the injury with close-ups and replays to be a bit much as well.

On the upside, here's some encouraging (I hope) news.


BOSTON -- Catcher Carlos Santana will undergo an MRI on his left knee in Cleveland on Tuesday after he was involved in a violent collision at home plate in the Indians' 6-5 victory over the Red Sox on Monday night at Fenway Park.

"He tested well with the trainers, meaning they don't feel he has any serious damage -- his ACL or anything like that," manager Manny Acta said. "He is leaving tomorrow for Cleveland to get an MRI."


http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100802&content_id=12946368&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[Mikiemo83]

They have a video of Santana's injury play up on mlb.com (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10545643) now. Warning: not for the squeamish.

The first thought that popped up in my head when I saw the video? Joe Thiesman.thanks for the link

couple things

Santana is a converted 3rd baseman with a cannon of an arm, only has played catcher for 3 seasons I think and was still learning the position. His placement of his leg/foot appears to be incorrect. If you watch Tek he squares his hips up with 3rd base and keeps a bend to the knee so teh hyper-extension is less likely to happen


that is all well and good but I can say a great throw to the catcher to make the play, an amazing ability to hold onto the ball as the knee bends ugly and I hope Santana has a bit of Tedy Bruschi rubber legs going on and is only minimally hurt

[SamBam39]

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dr. Pappas.

I don't care if they cry, but I would care if an opposing fan was that benign about an injury of that caliber though.

When A-Rod pulls a hamstring and can't play against the Sox, that's one thing... When a highly-touted catching prospect of a rebuilding, bottom-feeder team suffers what appears to be a career-threatening injury?
"He tested well with the trainers, meaning they don't feel he has any serious damage -- his ACL or anything like that," manager Manny Acta said. "He is leaving tomorrow for Cleveland to get an MRI."
See I told you he was fine.

[3 Point Stan]

The thing about that play is that you see catchers do that all the time. What you DON'T see anymore is a Pete Rose/Ray Fosse-like incident occur because runners try to get around the catcher's leg almost always nowadays.

The play was perfectly clean. The result was almost* tragic.





































*still could be, despute SamBam's expert opinion on knee injurues

[SamBam39]

3PS. Tragic?????? A bit melodramatic no? Tragic is the guy dies, or loses his leg. Tragic isn't "Oh no I can't play baseball anymore. I can't earn millions". Sorry, IMO that isn't tragic.


And believe it or not I used to be an athletic trainer. So my "opinion" is actually based a little bit on experience.

[3 Point Stan]

SB, it's amazing to me that you could give two shits about an injury that "appeared" like that considering how much you wear your heart on your sleeve around here.

And congrats on being a trainer - I used to be a baseball player and went out cuz of injury. I don't want to see anyone get hurt badly.

Have a nice day.

[Joolz]

I thought this was nice.


Ryan Kalish, in addition to being a very good prospect, is a good dude. He went over to the Cleveland clubhouse after the game to speak with Carlos Santana and wish him well with his knee injury. Not every player would do that.


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/08/vmart_cameron_a.html

[sprocketboy]

I thought this was nice.



http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/08/vmart_cameron_a.html

When they showed his face, he had this "oh, sh*t, I hope that guy gets up" look on his face.

[Mikiemo83]

When they showed his face, he had this "oh, sh*t, I hope that guy gets up" look on his face.yeah the look he had walking back to the dugout told the whole story