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southcarolina

10-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Arizona
Cruz, Juan (RP); Eckstein, David (SS)

Atlanta
Norton, Greg (OF); Ohman, Will (RP); Tavarez, Julian (RP)

Baltimore
Millar, Kevin (1B); Payton, Jay (OF)

Boston
Cora, Alex (SS); Ross, Dave (C); Varitek, Jason (C)

Chicago Cubs
Dempster, Ryan (SP); Edmonds, Jim (OF); Fox, Chad (RP); Howry, Bob (RP)

Chicago White Sox
Crede, Joe (3B); Uribe, Juan (2B)

Cincinnati
Affeldt, Jeremy (RP); Lincoln, Michael (RP)

Cleveland
* Donnelly, Brendan (RP)

Detroit Tigers
Garcia, Freddy Antonio (SP); Jones, Todd (RP)

Florida
LoDuca, Paul (C)

Houston
Loretta, Mark (2B)

Kansas City
Grudzielanek, Mark (2B)

Los Angeles Angels
Anderson, Garret (OF); Garland, Jon (SP); Teixeira, Mark (1B)

Los Angeles Dodgers
Beimel, Joe (RP); Blake, Casey (3B); Lowe, Derek (SP); Maddux, Greg (SP); Ramirez, Manny (OF)

Milwaukee
Gagne, Eric (RP); Kapler, Gabe (OF); Lamb, Michael (3B); Sheets, Ben (SP); Shouse, Brian (RP)

Minnesota
Guardado, Eddie (RP); Punto, Nick (SS); Reyes, Dennys (RP)

New York Mets
Easley, Damion (2B); Perez, Oliver (SP); Wise, Matt (RP)

New York Yankees
Abreu, Bob (OF); Moeller, Chad (C); Ponson, Sidney (SP); Rodriguez, Ivan (C)

Oakland
Brown, Emil (OF)

Pittsburgh
Gomez, Chris (3B); Mientkiewicz, Doug (1B)

St. Louis
Izturis, Cesar (SS); LaRue, Jason (C); Looper, Braden L. (SP); Lopez, Felipe (2B); Springer, Russ (RP); Villone, Ron (RP)

Seattle
Bloomquist, Willie (OF); Cairo, Miguel (1B); Ibanez, Raul (OF)

Toronto
Wilkerson, Brad (OF)

Texas
+ Blalock, Hank (3B); Bradley, Milton (DH); Jennings, Jason (SP); Vazquez, Ramon (3B); Wright, Jamey (RP)

3 Point Stan

10-31-2008, 02:16 PM

65 players file for Free Agency on the first day

Boston
Ross, Dave (C)
Uh oh...

The sox are dOOmed in '09 if they don't re-sign Ross, Dave.

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 03:10 PM

Dave's not here!

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 03:15 PM

Mets picked up Carlos Delgado's $12m option. No surprise there.

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 03:18 PM

Padres will explore Peavy trade with Dodgers and Cubs. Looks like he intends to stay in the NL. So Sox are propbably out.

After failing to strike a deal with the Braves — at least for the moment — the Padres intend to explore deals with two other clubs on Peavy's preferred list, the Cubs and Dodgers

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8741126/Baseball-needs-to-work-on-its-calendar?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 03:21 PM

Adam Dunn expected to file for free agency.

Two of the Diamondbacks' highest-profile free agents, second baseman Orlando Hudson and slugger Adam Dunn, have not yet filed, but the club doesn't seem to be holding out much hope of retaining either.

Adam Dunn (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/10/30/20081030spt-dbacks.html)

SlumpBustR

10-31-2008, 03:26 PM

Dave's not here!:)<object width="425" height="344">

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southcarolina

10-31-2008, 03:45 PM

Uh oh...

The sox are dOOmed in '09 if they don't re-sign Ross, Dave.

Its ok...the RedSox have acquired Dewon Day and Virgil Vasquez in the last couple of days. May as well give the Sox the trophy in '09.

southcarolina

10-31-2008, 03:47 PM

Mets picked up Carlos Delgado's $12m option. No surprise there.

I thought maybe they'd make a run at Teixeira. :shrug:

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 04:11 PM

Minaya had come out earlier and said they would re-sign him.

southcarolina

10-31-2008, 05:22 PM

Minaya had come out earlier and said they would re-sign him.

I know Delgado had a strong second half, but he is 38 years old. Just thought they would at least kick the ties on Teixeira before committing to Delgado

Mikiemo83

10-31-2008, 06:36 PM

I know Delgado had a strong second half, but he is 38 years old. Just thought they would at least kick the ties on Teixeira before committing to Delgado
they still can and dump Delgado if the win the Tex Race

southcarolina

10-31-2008, 06:40 PM

they still can and dump Delgado if the win the Tex Race

I guess they only had 6 days lect to make a decision, so they couldnt wait for the Teixeira saga to play out.

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 07:00 PM

I guess they could move Delgado. But they may have to eat some of his contract.

3 Point Stan

10-31-2008, 07:29 PM

$12 mil for a one-year flyer on a guy they know well is a good deal. I kinda think '09 is the end of their window anyway and they REALLY need to replace Wagner. Save that dough for other needs, Mets.

sleepyjean

10-31-2008, 10:29 PM

End of year means Baldelli a free agent...........How about this guy? I am a little afraid of him because of his tendency to injury but would like to see him in Fenway OF.

SamBam39

10-31-2008, 10:37 PM

End of year means Baldelli a free agent...........How about this guy? I am a little afraid of him because of his tendency to injury but would like to see him in Fenway OF.
I would think he would go where he can start. I think on the Sox he would be a 4th outfielder if the Sox move a CF. But Sox do have Nancy Drew, so a lot of playing time may not be a problem.:icon_hang

sleepyjean

10-31-2008, 10:58 PM

southcarolina

10-31-2008, 10:59 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3675386

The Toronto Blue Jays exercised a $2.5 million option on catcher Rod Barajas Friday, rewarding the 33-year-old after he batted .249 with 11 homers and 49 RBIs.

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 12:57 AM

Rangers will shop catching to find pitching at the winter meetings. Don't know if the Sox will be willing to trade pitching for a catcher. But we all know they will at least have a conversation.

General manager Jon Daniels, who has already been working the phones through October, will be trying to satisfy the club's quest for starting pitching, and is talking to clubs who are looking for a catcher. He should find much to talk about with his colleagues. Catching is the Rangers' top trade chip, and various clubs have expressed an interest in Gerald Laird, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Taylor Teagarden and Max Ramirez over the past year. The Rangers seem in a position where they have to move at least one, but the question is if they can get starting pitching in return.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3656715&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex&partnerId=rss_tex

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 01:02 AM

Yankees plan to offer Abreu arbitration. At the least they are looking to protect their draft picks. Abreu is looking for 3 years so he most likely will refuse even though he wants to remain in NY.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10312008/sports/yankees/abreu__perez_become_free_agents_136106.htm

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 01:11 AM

Cards sign catcher Jason LaRue.

Jason LaRue's time on the open market lasted barely 24 hours.
A day after filing for free agency, LaRue re-signed with St. Louis. The catcher inked a one-year deal to return as the backup catcher for Yadier Molina. The move continued a pattern for the Cardinals, who usually act quickly to sign or re-sign their second catcher. According to The Associated Press, LaRue will receive $950,000.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3657607&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl&partnerId=rss_stl

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 01:21 AM

Sox have one type A (Tek) and one Type B (Byrd)

Type A

Bobby Abreu (Yankees)
Doug Brocail (Astros)
A.J. Burnett (Blue Jays)
Pat Burrell (Phillies)
Orlando Cabrera (White Sox)
Juan Cruz (Diamondbacks)
Ryan Dempster (Cubs)
Adam Dunn (Diamondbacks)
Brian Fuentes (Rockies)
Brian Giles (Padres)
Bob Howry (Cubs)
Orlando Hudson (Diamondbacks)
Raul Ibanez (Mariners)
Jason Isringhausen (Cardinals)
Derek Lowe (Dodgers)
Damaso Marte (Yankees)
Jamie Moyer (Phillies)
Mike Mussina (Yankees)
Darren Oliver (Angels)
Oliver Perez (Mets)
Andy Pettitte (Yankees)
Manny Ramirez (Dodgers)
Edgar Renteria (Tigers)
Francisco Rodriguez (Angels)
C.C. Sabathia (Brewers)
Ben Sheets (Brewers)
Russ Springer (Cardinals)
Mark Teixeira (Angels)
Jason Varitek (Red Sox)
Kerry Wood (Cubs)
That's 30 Type As, though Giles and Marte may have their options picked up and Mussina may retire.
Type B
Jeremy Affeldt (Reds)
Moises Alou (Mets)
Garret Anderson (Angels)
Joe Beimel (Dodgers)
Casey Blake (Dodgers)
Hank Blalock (Rangers)
Milton Bradley (Rangers)
Paul Byrd (Red Sox)
Mike Cameron (Brewers)
Alan Embree (Athletics)
Eric Gagne (Brewers)
Jon Garland (Angels)
Luis Gonzalez (Marlins)
Ken Griffey Jr. (White Sox)
Mark Grudzielanek (Royals)
Trevor Hoffman (Padres)
Randy Johnson (Diamondbacks)
Jeff Kent (Dodgers)
Paul Lo Duca (Marlins)
Braden Looper (Cardinals)
Mark Loretta (Astros)
Brandon Lyon (Diamondbacks)
Greg Maddux (Dodgers)
Trever Miller (Rays)
Miguel Olivo (Royals)
Brad Penny (Dodgers)
Dennys Reyes (Twins)
Ivan Rodriguez (Yankees)
Brian Shouse (Brewers)
John Smoltz (Braves)
Frank Thomas (Athletics)
Salomon Torres (Brewers)
Juan Uribe (White Sox)
David Weathers (Reds)
Randy Wolf (Astros)
Gregg Zaun (Blue Jays)

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 01:24 AM

Cubs decline option on back up C Henry Blanco. Will try to sign him to a lower deal.

southcarolina

11-01-2008, 01:52 PM

Cards sign catcher Jason LaRue.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3657607&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl&partnerId=rss_stl

Catching options are dropping like flies.

southcarolina

11-01-2008, 02:02 PM

I would think he would go where he can start. I think on the Sox he would be a 4th outfielder if the Sox move a CF. But Sox do have Nancy Drew, so a lot of playing time may not be a problem.:icon_hang

Teams looking for a starter may be wary of giving him starter money until he proves he can handle the load of playing everyday, if he even can. Every time they talked about him in the playoffs it seemed they were maiking a point to point out how the Rays had to balance his playing time against how tired he was.

A team like Boston might be exactly what he needs....a 4th OFer spot with a lot of visibilty with a starter with a history of getting injured. Of course the downside for the Sox is there is no guarantee that Baldelli could handle playing everyday, even for a week or two, if someone got hurt, so the Sox might end up having to bring up a minor leaguer to share some time with Baldelli anyway.

So....who knows?

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 03:23 PM

Teams looking for a starter may be wary of giving him starter money until he proves he can handle the load of playing everyday, if he even can. Every time they talked about him in the playoffs it seemed they were maiking a point to point out how the Rays had to balance his playing time against how tired he was.

A team like Boston might be exactly what he needs....a 4th OFer spot with a lot of visibilty with a starter with a history of getting injured. Of course the downside for the Sox is there is no guarantee that Baldelli could handle playing everyday, even for a week or two, if someone got hurt, so the Sox might end up having to bring up a minor leaguer to share some time with Baldelli anyway.

So....who knows?That plus if he is signed they would probably look to move Covelli or Jacoby as they would be the 4th outfielder right now.

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 03:25 PM

Jamie Moyer is looking to remain with the Phillies. Surprise, surprise!!!!!!

Jamie Moyer is a free agent, but the Phillies lefthander is optimistic he will return to the team next season.
"I hope I am back here," said Moyer, who will turn 46 on Nov. 18. "I sense there is a good feeling that I may come back here. I have not talked to the club at all, but we'll see what happens."

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081101_Phillies_Notes__Moyer_hopeful_about_retur n_to_Phils.html

3 Point Stan

11-01-2008, 05:02 PM

Jamie Moyer is looking to remain with the Phillies. Surprise, surprise!!!!!!

Well... Every team needs a Johnny Pesky I guess.

southcarolina

11-01-2008, 08:21 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081101&content_id=3659788&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

Contacted at his home late Friday night, where he was hosting a Halloween party, Griffey's agent, Brian Goldberg, said Griffey would be "open-minded" about returning to the team that made him the first overall pick in the 1987 First-Year Player Draft, a selection that helped turn the franchise into a perennial playoff contender in the 1990s.

SamBam39

11-01-2008, 09:48 PM

Jim Edmonds would like to play another year!
from Buster Olney

There was talk after the Cubs were knocked out of the playoffs that center fielder Jim Edmonds, a borderline Hall of Fame candidate, might have played his last game. But his agent, Paul Cohen, said Friday evening that Edmonds fully intends to play next season.

"He's definitely coming back," Cohen said. "The way he finished up, why wouldn't he?"

After being released by the Padres early in the season, Edmonds hit .256 for the Cubs, with a .369 on-base percentage, a .568 slugging percentage and 19 homers (among 38 extra-base hits) in 250 at-bats. Given those numbers and the fact that Edmonds now is 18 homers away from 400, Cohen will sit down with Edmonds in the days ahead to discuss his options.

SamBam39

11-02-2008, 10:20 AM

Let the bidding begin....

CC Sabathia, the prize pitcher on this year's market, filed for free agency Saturday.

Sabathia was acquired by Milwaukee from Cleveland on July 7, then went 11-2 with seven complete games, three shutouts and a 1.65 ERA in 17 starts to help the Brewers make the playoffs for the first time since 1982. Overall, the 28-year-old left-hander was 17-10 with a 2.70 ERA for the Indians and Brewers.
Milwaukee plans to make an offer soon. Sabathia's new deal could top Johan Santana's $137.5 million, six-year contract with the New York Mets.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2008/11/01/sabathia_files_for_free_agency/

SamBam39

11-04-2008, 12:50 AM

A reader suggested we take a look at notable free agent compensation draft picks. Today we'll look at first-round picks that one team lost to another for signing a Type A free agent. We'll look at notable supplemental picks later this week.

2000: Braves pick Adam Wainwright as compensation for D'Backs signing Russ Springer.
2001: Mets pick Aaron Heilman for Rockies signing Mike Hampton.
2001: Orioles pick Mike Fontenot for Yankees signing Mike Mussina.
2001: A's pick Jeremy Bonderman for Mets signing Kevin Appier.
2002: A's pick Nick Swisher for Red Sox signing Johnny Damon.
2002: A's pick Joe Blanton for Yankees signing Jason Giambi.
2003: D'Backs pick Conor Jackson for Mariners signing Greg Colbrunn.
2004: Twins pick Glen Perkins for Mariners signing Eddie Guardado.
2004: Yankees pick Phil Hughes for Astros signing Andy Pettitte.
2004: Dodgers pick Blake DeWitt for Yankees signing Paul Quantrill.
2005: Red Sox pick Jacoby Ellsbury for Angels signing Orlando Cabrera.
2005: Cardinals pick Colby Rasmus for Red Sox signing Edgar Renteria.

SamBam39

11-04-2008, 12:52 AM

Yanks sign sinkerballer Mitre.

MIAMI -- Sergio Mitre, who underwent Tommy John ligament replacement surgery on July 15, is reuniting with Joe Girardi.

When Girardi managed the Marlins in 2006, Mitre was part of the pitching staff. On Monday, Mitre reached agreement on a a split contract with the Yankees, managed by Girardi.
The Major League portion of the deal is for $1.25 million, and there is a team option for 2010.
Due to the severe surgery on his right elbow, Mitre may not be ready to pitch until midseason, according to his agent, Matt Sosnick. Normal recovery time from Tommy John surgery is 12-18 months.
"About eight teams showed interest," Sosnick said. "The Yankees showed the most interest."
When healthy, Mitre has tremendous upside. He could be a key contributor for New York in the second half, working either out of the rotation or in the bullpen.
Mitre broke in with the Cubs, but he was traded to the Marlins before the 2006 season as part of the Juan Pierre deal. In 2007, the right-hander was 5-8 with a 4.65 ERA in 27 games, all starts. He threw 149 innings.
A sinkerballer, Mitre was especially effective early in 2007. In May of that year, he was 2-0 with a 1.12 ERA in 40 1/3 innings. As the season progressed, however, he dealt with fatigue, and his second-half statistics suffered. In 12 starts after the All-Star break, he was 2-4 with a 7.27 ERA. Mitre entered Spring Training with the chance to be among Florida's top three starting pitchers. However, he made just one appearance in Grapefruit League action, facing three batters without recording an out before being lifted with forearm tightness.

SamBam39

11-04-2008, 09:37 AM

Mets interested in Javier Vazquez.

While White SoxGM Ken Williams has gone underground on responding to trade rumors, one from a well-placed source at the general managers meetings said the Mets had interest in Javier Vazquez.

The source did not know what the Mets were offering in return, but it might not be much if they would take the entire $23 million owed to the right-hander for the next two seasons. The Mets are looking for at least one starting pitcher and maybe two.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-04-gm-sox-chicagonov04,0,1769835.story

southcarolina

11-04-2008, 10:02 AM

Towers confirmed the seven teams -- the Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers, Astros, Braves, Angels and Yankees -- that Peavy would consider waiving his no-trade clause to join, but added that Peavy's preference is to go to a National League team.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081104&content_id=3662868&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

SamBam39

11-04-2008, 11:54 PM

Tigers to take a look at Rafael Furcal.

The Tigers have not yet had formal discussions with the agent for Rafael Furcal, who just filed for free agency this week, but they're expected to enter the mix for the speedy shortstop. How far they delve into the bidding should be telling for Detroit's approach this offseason. Team president/general manager Dave Dombrowski has said multiple times that they should have help coming at short from the farm system in 2010, whether it's Cale Iorg (who played at Class A Lakeland last year) or Danny Worth (who made it all the way to Triple-A Toledo in his first pro season).

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/11/tigers_expected_to_look_at_fur.html

SamBam39

11-04-2008, 11:59 PM

Yankees decline the option on Giambi and Pavano!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...ns_on_gia.html (http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/11/yankees_decline_options_on_gia.html)

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">The Yankees declined the options Tuesday on first baseman Jason Giambi ($22 million) and right-hander Carl Pavano ($13 million). Giambi gets a $5 million buyout, and Pavano a $1.95 million buyout.
There is a chance Giambi will return on a lesser, short-term contract. Giambi this year hit .247 with 19 doubles, 32 home runs and 96 RBI, making 112 starts at first base and 26 starts at designated hitter.
For $39.95 million over four years, Pavano made just 26 starts because of injuries. He went 9-8 with a 5.00 ERA, earning $274,256.29 per inning. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

SamBam39

11-05-2008, 12:12 AM

A.J. Burnett opted out of the last 2 years of his contract.

DANA POINT, Ca. - It's official: Blue Jays right-hander A.J. Burnett is opting out of his contract and becoming a free agent.
Burnett reached his decision after his agents met with Blue Jays officials on Tuesday afternoon.

However, the pitcher's lead agent, Darek Braunecker, said that the Blue Jays continue to express strong interest in Burnett and remain a serious player in the bidding.
The Red Sox and Yankees are expected to be among the teams that will pursue Burnett. And another AL East team, the Orioles, is likely to at least show interest. Burnett lives in Monkton, Md., outside of Baltimore.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8756808/Burnett-opts-out-of-deal,-will-become-free-agent

SamBam39

11-05-2008, 12:16 AM

The Braves offered Japaenese free agent pitcher Junichi Tazawa a contract today.

While Braves officials continue their pursuit of Jake Peavy, they’re also moving forward on other pitching fronts. Namely one on the other side of the Pacific Rim.

I’m told the Braves have already offered a major league contract to Junichi Tazawa, the Japanese right-hander who’s drawn serious interest from Boston, Seattle and possibly the Cubs and Marlins.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2008/11/04/braves_serious.html?cxntfid=blogs_braves

3 Point Stan

11-05-2008, 02:20 AM

A.J. Burnett opted out of the last 2 years of his contract.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8756808/Burnett-opts-out-of-deal,-will-become-free-agent


Color me "interested"

SamBam39

11-05-2008, 03:25 AM

Color me "interested"
Sox are listed as one of the teams who have an interest.:cute:

Muse

11-05-2008, 12:56 PM

Color me "interested"

ditto

:)

Mikiemo83

11-05-2008, 02:23 PM

According to Curt in the car....:D......he has the best stuff in MLB

but would this mean teh Marlins could have been a dynasty if they kept all their players

Muse

11-05-2008, 05:48 PM

According to Curt in the car....:D......he has the best stuff in MLB

but would this mean teh Marlins could have been a dynasty if they kept all their players

Sadly for their fans, we will never know, I feel they had another WS under their belt if they had kept the team together

SamBam39

11-06-2008, 12:29 AM

Matt Holliday is rumored to be going to the Yankees or Rays! :icon_hang

Matt Holliday, barring a dramatic reversal, will be traded this winter. General manager Dan O’Dowd made it clear Tuesday that he’s not afraid to play kids or unproven players when I asked him about starting Ian Stewart, Seth Smith and Ryan Spilborghs in the same lineup. Holliday should fetch a big return, but there’s no perfect deal out there. The Rockies want pitching which is why they have spoken with the Rays, who could part with Edwin Jackson or Andy Sonnanstine. Carl Crawford’s name has also surfaced as someone the Rays might be willing to give up for Holliday.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2008/11/05/gm-meetings-starting-to-heat-up/

from Joel Sherman of the NY Post It is somewhat possible that the Yankees can play for Holliday if the price drops significantly. Here is a small tidbit to keep in mind: The Rockies VP of scouting, Bill Schmidt, is said to be a fan of Ian Kennedy. There is no way that Kennedy can be the center of a trade for Holliday. But the fact is that many teams no longer have that much interest in Kennedy. That the Rockies might would at least provide a piece to a trade puzzle.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/11/3_up_holliday_v.html

SamBam39

11-07-2008, 04:05 PM

Houston signs righthander LaTroy Hawkins to a one year deal.

SamBam39

11-07-2008, 04:06 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081107&content_id=3669579&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was&partnerId=rss_was

4 teams interested in Chad Cordero

A week after becoming a free agent, former Nationals closer Chad Cordero is drawing interest from several Major League clubs. According to a baseball source, the Angels, Mets, Rangers and Tigers are interested and each team has asked to look at Cordero's medical records.

Joolz

11-07-2008, 04:20 PM

Dodgers offer Manny Ramirez 45 million over 2 years. LA Times link:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-baseball7-2008nov07,0,5093329.story

3 Point Stan

11-07-2008, 06:36 PM

Dodgers offer Manny Ramirez 45 million over 2 years. LA Times link:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-baseball7-2008nov07,0,5093329.story
He'll decline. I think he'll end up getting 3 years and $60-$70 from someone.

My dream was that he'd have to settle for 3/$45 million but that was wishfull thinking. Stupid a-hole could've essentially had Dodgers money just for staying put here. Oh well....

Mikiemo83

11-08-2008, 02:03 AM

Tigers Rumors: Pudge, Varitek, Lugo, Thames
By Tim Dierkes [November 7 at 11:55am CST]
Jon Paul Morosi of the Detroit Free Press doles out the latest Tigers rumors.

How will the Tigers resolve their catching situation? GM Dave Dombrowski calls an Ivan Rodriguez reunion a longshot, and Scott Boras is asking the moon for Jason Varitek. The Tigers may not have the goods to swing a trade for Gerald Laird. Morosi likes the idea of Henry Blanco, but says the Tigers have yet to contact his agent. Check out the other free agent options here.
Morosi considers a bad contract swap for Julio Lugo a viable option for the Tigers. He notes that Dontrelle Willis and Nate Robertson have similar commitments. Lugo for Robertson does seem reasonable for both sides.
Morosi believes the Tigers match up well with the Reds, who are looking for a power-hitting outfielder. Magglio Ordonez is the marquee name, but Morosi likes the fit with Marcus Thames.

SamBam39

11-08-2008, 11:36 AM

Rangers pick up DH Hank Blalock's $6.2 m option for '09.

SamBam39

11-08-2008, 11:43 AM

Padres pick up RF Brian Giles $9m option for '09.

Mikiemo83

11-10-2008, 06:34 PM

The Oakland Athletics have acquired star outfielder Matt Holliday in a trade with the Colorado Rockies, SI.com has learned.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/10/heyman.holliday/index.html

SamBam39

11-10-2008, 06:38 PM

Hmmm! Interesting. Like to see who they traded.

3 Point Stan

11-10-2008, 06:56 PM

Rhodypatsfan

11-10-2008, 07:57 PM

What the F is Billy Beane thinking??? How is it that this guy is supposed to be a respected GM?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/10/heyman.holliday/index.html

SamBam39

11-10-2008, 08:00 PM

When's his contract up? P Greg Smith has been confirmed as one of the A's going to Colorado. WTF, it better be more than that.

Oh this is better: Huston Street, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith for Holliday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-hollidayAsclose111008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Rhodypatsfan

11-10-2008, 08:01 PM

Sorry, guess this can be merged with the other thread. My bad for not reading first.

Mikiemo83

11-10-2008, 10:33 PM

Sorry, guess this can be merged with the other thread. My bad for not reading first.
no I was going to make a thread on it also..an easy merge at your request sir

SamBam39

11-10-2008, 11:41 PM

Now there is talk the Rockies will turn around and trade Street to another team.

http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270335/11618874

SamBam39

11-10-2008, 11:50 PM

Longoria wins ROY for the AL. Ellsbury came in 3rd in the voting.

Mikiemo83

11-11-2008, 11:38 AM

Now there is talk the Rockies will turn around and trade Street to another team.

http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270335/11618874I wonder if Billy Beane is taking a chance on Holliday only to move him for a kings ransom at the trading deadline...the knock is he hits well in Denver but not so well on the road. So if Holliday does well I expect him to be moved early, maybe a June 1st trade

Beane will be without Street, who was moved to 6th/7th innning work after stuggling and Greg Smith, A lefty with one year of experience and should get more back in return IF Holliday does well early.

also I heard Holliday's dad complained wanting his boy to go east, specifically mentioning a New York team

Mikiemo83

11-11-2008, 11:40 AM

Longoria wins ROY for the AL. Ellsbury came in 3rd in the voting.Much deserved and Soto for teh NL

Maybe the sox can trade Kevin Cash and Mike Timlin to the cubs for Soto :blink:

SamBam39

11-11-2008, 11:53 AM

That's a great idea! I'll drive them both to Chicago.

Mikiemo83

11-11-2008, 12:46 PM

Roadtrip
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2038212/roadtrip_Full.jpg

SamBam39

11-11-2008, 08:14 PM

We've got a half a tank of gas, a full pack of cigarettes, it's night and we're wearing sunglasses!

southcarolina

11-12-2008, 12:51 AM

The Marlins get even younger and cheaper?!?!?!

On Tuesday morning, the Marlins announced they obtained second baseman Emilio Bonifacio, along with two prospects, for left-hander Scott Olsen and left fielder Josh Willingham.

http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3674204&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla

SamBam39

11-12-2008, 09:47 AM

The Marlins get even younger and cheaper?!?!?!
Isn't that kind of the Marlins team motto?:shrug_n:

Mikiemo83

11-12-2008, 12:09 PM

smart move by the marlins...this opens the door to move Hanley Ramirez to CF soon - hanley sucks defensively, add in Uggla and you have a pretty poor defensive Middle infield. Bonifacio will take over 2nd
I do think Uggla will be moved next, only thing saving him is his poor second half last season

3 Point Stan

11-12-2008, 06:15 PM

SamBam39

11-13-2008, 12:55 AM

Imagine Derek Lowe on the Marlins? With Uggla and Ramirez up the middle, dude would have a record of like 4-18.
I can't ever see the Marlins coughing up that dough! ;)

SamBam39

11-13-2008, 10:07 AM

Looks like the Braves may get Peavy. But he has to waive his no-trade first.

The Atlanta Braves (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/teams/page/ATL), full-steam ahead in their pursuit of right-hander Jake Peavy (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/288915), are offering a four-player package of players, and San Diego is expected to request that Peavy waive his no-trade clause so the deal can be completed, CBSSports.com has learned.

Under terms of the deal discussed by the Braves and Padres, San Diego would receive shortstop Yunel Escobar (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1098922), Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1599715), one of two starting pitchers -- Charlie Morton (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1390876) or Jo-Jo Reyes (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/1232096) -- and either reliever Blaine Boyer (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/448910) or one of two minor-league left-handers (one of which is believed to be Jeff Locke).

http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270335/11665079

3 Point Stan

11-13-2008, 12:01 PM

I can't ever see the Marlins coughing up that dough! ;)
Oh, me either. Wasn't even insinuating he was going there. Just trying to imagine a pitcher of his style with that horrendous defensive middle infield behind him. He'd be back on the sauce by the end of April.

SamBam39

11-13-2008, 12:07 PM

No I knew what you meant. And believe me if he did show up there we would be seeing a LOT of the famous (or infamous) "Derek Lowe face".

SamBam39

11-13-2008, 06:02 PM

Yanks are going to make their pitch to Sabathia tomorrow.

One Yankee executive said, "we have to separate ourselves." Translation: They must divest Sabathia of his dreams of the Pacific and the batter's box by going to a financial region relatively quickly that no other franchise would even consider, especially in this plummeting economy.

That means a bid north of the six years at $137.5 million the New York Mets bestowed last year on Johan Santana . My gut says six years at $150 million sounds about right to force league-wide surrender before the bidding really even gets started.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132008/sports/yankees/yankees_ready_to_blow_away_cc_with_big_o_138398.ht m

Spend it all on pitching. Sox want Teixeira!

SamBam39

11-13-2008, 06:21 PM

Cliff Lee Cleveland Indians. No surprise there. Dice K came in 4th in the voting.

SamBam39

11-15-2008, 11:19 AM

Supposedly the MFY's made a record offer for a pitcher to Sabathia yesterday. In excess of the offer the Mets made to Santana last year and are expected to offer up to $250m for Sabathia, Burnett and Lowe.:blink: Sabathia was 6 yrs $140-$142!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/11/14/2008-11-14_report_yankees_make_record_sixyear_140mi.html

SamBam39

11-15-2008, 11:20 AM

Dodgers withdrew their 2 yr $45m offer to Manny but still plan to negotiate.http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/11/dodgers_withdraw_manny_offer.html

SamBam39

11-15-2008, 11:27 AM

Former Sox first base coach Luis Alicea was hired by the Mets for the same position on Friday.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/other_mlb/view/2008_11_14_Luis_Alicea_hired_as_NY_Mets__first-base_coach/

SamBam39

11-15-2008, 11:30 AM

Oh yeah, if anyone cares Joe Maddon won Manager of the Year in the AL. Lou Piniella won it in the NL.

3 Point Stan

11-15-2008, 02:44 PM

Rhodypatsfan

11-15-2008, 03:34 PM

Rhodypatsfan

11-15-2008, 03:35 PM

And it should be interesting how the Yankees play the Teixeira thing now that they've signed Swisher, who could end up in RF if they let Abreu walk.

3 Point Stan

11-15-2008, 07:30 PM

Sabathia & Burnett SHOULD get them to the playoffs. I'm skeptical because I think in two more years Sabathia's arm is going to fall off and Burnett they can have. He only pitches well during contract yeason.
I'd actually rather have Burnett than Sabathia.

And it should be interesting how the Yankees play the Teixeira thing now that they've signed Swisher, who could end up in RF if they let Abreu walk.

Yep. If they sign Tex, Swisher probably gets most of his PT in the OF. Of course, they could sign Manny nand he's back at 1B.

Imagine Manny and A-Rod plus Sabathia and Burnett? Ugh... barf, puke, etc.

Rhodypatsfan

11-16-2008, 03:42 AM

Nah, I can't see Manny's act in New York.

3 Point Stan

11-16-2008, 11:02 AM

Nah, I can't see Manny's act in New York.
I'm hoping we don't have to see it :)

Mikiemo83

11-17-2008, 12:10 AM

Sabathia & Burnett SHOULD get them to the playoffs. I'm skeptical because I think in two more years Sabathia's arm is going to fall off and Burnett they can have. He only pitches well during contract yeason.middle of next year he goes on the DL for 30 days...Burnett is a contract year guy and Lowe will never sleep in New York - -the 3 day srest beat him up bigtime and the lack of conditioning will make him Bartolo Colon real soon

And it should be interesting how the Yankees play the Teixeira thing now that they've signed Swisher, who could end up in RF if they let Abreu walk.
I think the Yankee move Matsui to anyone who will take him (seatle) and play Damon in left, Swisher in Center and Tex at 1st keeping Abreu

SamBam39

11-17-2008, 12:27 PM

I don't think Swisher can play center. I would think he would move to RF if they were really going to move him to the outfield and sign Tex.

Mikiemo83

11-17-2008, 12:55 PM

I don't think Swisher can play center. I would think he would move to RF if they were really going to move him to the outfield and sign Tex.
I thought so too but

Position Total games
1B* 229
DH 9
OF* 323

outfield breakdown
RF* 201
CF* 131
LF* 109

if you take out '05 when he played exclusively in RF he has split time between RF and CF - Kind of Like JD Drew, he can play CF but prefers RF

SamBam39

11-17-2008, 01:23 PM

Oh. Thanks. I guess I was just too lazy to look it up. I would think defensively that couldn't strengthen the MFY's so if they want to move him to center I'm ok with it. :) But, if it means they sign Tex too. Then maybe not so much. Could the Yankees end up with a $400m payroll when it is all said and done?? :eeek:

Mikiemo83

11-17-2008, 01:44 PM

who sets the market this offseason

texiera???
CC?????

Rhodypatsfan

11-17-2008, 02:00 PM

who sets the market this offseason

texiera???
CC?????

I think both of them do.

According to the NY Post, the Player's Association is pressuring Sabathia to take the Yankee's offer.
And I find it interesting that the Yankees aren't being mentioned in the same breath as Teixeira.

SamBam39

11-17-2008, 05:19 PM

I think both of them do.

According to the NY Post, the Player's Association is pressuring Sabathia to take the Yankee's offer.
And I find it interesting that the Yankees aren't being mentioned in the same breath as Teixeira.
I would agree. It already sounds like CC set the market with the Yanks offer if that amount is true. Which means Tex is probably going to look for 6-8 years at 25 per.

Mikiemo83

11-17-2008, 05:21 PM

Rhodypatsfan

11-17-2008, 06:02 PM

Pujols wins the NL MVP.

SamBam39

11-17-2008, 06:57 PM

so how will it play out for the second level players...Lou Merloni bases Pitchers cost to a team at $1,000,000 per win...anyone agree/disagree with his value

it is the reason he claims the Sox will keep Wake aroundIf that is true then Sabathia could end up grossly overpaid. But it sounds reasonable based on the market.

SamBam39

11-18-2008, 01:53 AM

Giants signed RP Jeremy Affeldt. 2 yrs $8m

Rhodypatsfan

11-18-2008, 02:02 AM

Giants signed RP Jeremy Affeldt. 2 yrs $8m

That should get the ball rolling.

SamBam39

11-18-2008, 02:37 AM

Just waiting for the Sox to sign Teixeira!!! :thumb:

SamBam39

11-18-2008, 03:59 PM

Cubs are close to re-signing Ryan Dempster.

southcarolina

11-19-2008, 04:20 PM

Cubs are close to re-signing Ryan Dempster.

4 years 52 million is what i saw.

Mikiemo83

11-19-2008, 04:27 PM

:blink: he took a home team discount :blink:

Mikiemo83

11-19-2008, 04:27 PM

Derek Lowe is looking for a Zito type of deal to sign....he may be 4 years too late in asking for it

southcarolina

11-19-2008, 04:29 PM

:blink: he took a home team discount :blink:

He is still making more per season than any of the RedSox starters.

southcarolina

11-19-2008, 04:31 PM

4 years 52 million is what i saw.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081118&content_id=3683267&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

The All-Star right-hander agreed to a four-year, $52 million deal on Tuesday to remain with the Cubs, including a $14 million player option for the 2012 season. He gets a $4 million signing bonus.
"I've become attached not just to the guys on the team but also to the city of Chicago," said Dempster, who resides in Wrigleyville. "Ultimately, it comes down to what our chances are to win a world championship. Getting to the postseason the last two years, I thought this is where I wanted to be."

SamBam39

11-19-2008, 05:53 PM

I love how he thinks he has a chance to win with the Cubbies. Poor deluded bastard.

Joolz

11-19-2008, 06:19 PM

I love how he thinks he has a chance to win with the Cubbies. Poor deluded bastard.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Mikiemo83

11-19-2008, 06:21 PM

I love how he thinks he has a chance to win with the Cubbies. Poor deluded bastard.
I spared you all the Neil Diamond face but turn the volume off if this bugs you

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Money talks
But it dont sing and dance

tommysgirl

11-19-2008, 10:31 PM

Mussina is retiring per ESPN. Cya asstrout!

Rhodypatsfan

11-19-2008, 10:43 PM

Mussina is retiring per ESPN. Cya asstrout!

Asstrout??? Just when I thought I'd heard all of 'em!

I'm surprised, thought he'd hang around to get 300 wins. Oh well, don't go with the feeling you'll be missed! :banana:

southcarolina

11-20-2008, 12:34 AM

Asstrout??? Just when I thought I'd heard all of 'em!

I'm surprised, thought he'd hang around to get 300 wins. Oh well, don't go with the feeling you'll be missed! :banana:

...

SamBam39

11-20-2008, 12:46 AM

I love that picture sc.
Pussina is at 270 career wins. He would have to pitch 2 more years to have a chance at 300. Maybe more.

SamBam39

11-20-2008, 12:02 PM

Cardinals signed former Rays lefty reliever Trever Miller.

Miller, 35, posted a 4.15 ERA in 43.1 innings for the Rays this year. He held lefties to a .235/.327/.382 line. Earlier this month, the Rays chose Miller's $400K buyout over a $2MM option. Miller was a Type B free agent, so the Rays will get a sandwich pick for their loss.

SamBam39

11-20-2008, 12:05 PM

Don't know how much they could pay but he is from the area.

WASHINGTON -- It has been reported several times that the Nationals have interest in signing free-agent first baseman Mark Teixeira. MLB.com has learned that the feeling is mutual, according to a person familiar with Teixeira's thinking.

Teixeira is from Maryland and is thinking about the possibility of playing in Washington. He played baseball, basketball and soccer at Mt. St. Joseph's High School in Baltimore. He set Maryland state records for career homers (29), RBIs (105) and runs (128). "[Maryland] is his home," said the source. "In some instances, I think players often tend to look at that in a different light than other franchises

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081119&content_id=3685476&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was&partnerId=rss_was

SamBam39

11-20-2008, 12:14 PM

Tigers may look at Trevor Hoffman if Joel Zumaya isn't ready.

Zumaya made it back this summer and pitched for about two months before soreness in the surgically repaired shoulder forced him back to the disabled list. What was hoped to be the tearing of scar tissue turned out to be a stress fracture, sidelining him for the final six weeks of the season.

Whether it sidelines Zumaya for the start of next season is a question the Tigers can't yet answer with any certainty. With that, the Tigers have to plan as if he might not be available

...for the Tigers, whose interest has ranged from closers such as Trevor Hoffman and Brandon Lyon to several left-handers -- some specialists, others middle relievers. They have an internal option with Zach Miner, though he looms larger as a starter while the Tigers wait for Kenny Rogers to decide whether he'll pitch in 2009 and Freddy Garcia to make some starts in winter ball.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081119&content_id=3685231&vkey=news_det&fext=.jsp&c_id=det&partnerId=rss_det

Mikiemo83

11-20-2008, 03:57 PM

according to on MLB GM, CC Sabathia may not want to play for the yankees and may be willing to take less money to go someplace else...reportedly the Dodgers are offering much less money hoping he wants to go to the west coast

3 Point Stan

11-20-2008, 04:04 PM

Tigers may look at Trevor Hoffman if Joel Zumaya can't kick his Guitar Hero addiction.

Fixed that for ya.

SamBam39

11-22-2008, 11:24 AM

:lol:

SamBam39

11-22-2008, 11:30 AM

Giants are negotiating with Edgar Renteria. But, they are also interested in Furcal as are the A's.

John Heyman think the MFY's and Sox will battle over Derek Lowe.

There's been a lot of newspaper space (and some Web space, as well) dedicated to a potential battle between the archrival Red Sox and Yankees for free agent pitcher A.J. Burnett. But it appears much more likely that the real skirmish between these two hated rivals will be over another free-agent pitcher, Derek Lowe, who is cited by many baseball executives for becoming even more focused in his years out in Los Angeles.

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/25641

SamBam39

11-30-2008, 07:29 PM

Orioles being mentioned as a possible destination for Jake Peavy. But Rosenthal still likes the Cubbies.

The Padres continue to discuss a trade of Peavy to the Cubs, but obstacles remain. First, the Cubs are in the process of being sold; offers from their four remaining bidders are due by Monday. The Cubs already have re-signed free-agent right-hander Ryan Dempster for $52 million over four years. They almost certainly would need the blessing of a new owner to take on Peavy, who is owed $63 million over the next four seasons — and might ask for even more money to waive his no-trade clause.

The teams, meanwhile, are not close to a trade agreement. Padres general manager Kevin Towers is trying to involve a third club so he could get the package of players he desires. The Cubs almost certainly will need to move right-hander Jason Marquis, who is earning $9.875 million next season, to clear both payroll and a rotation spot for Peavy.

The Padres could take Marquis, with the Cubs including enough money in the deal to reduce his salary to say, $7 million. Or, they could spin Marquis and the cash from the Cubs to another club. The Rockies, Reds and Giants have shown varying degrees of interest in Marquis, according to a major-league source.
Another possibility is that the Padres could spin one or two of the prospects that they receive from the Cubs. A team might value a player such as outfielder Felix Pie more than the Padres do; the Orioles are again talking with the Cubs about Pie, according to The Baltimore Sun, and could emerge as the third team in the deal.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8868376/Looming-arbitration-may-force-everybody%27s-hands?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

SamBam39

11-30-2008, 07:51 PM

from Baseball Prospectus

A.J. Burnett is looking at the Blue Jays, Red Sox, Yankees, Braves, Orioles, and Phillies I still hope they sign D. Lowe if they sign a pitcher.

The Angels may be willing to match the Yankees $140MM offer to CC Sabathia. They won't offer 10 years to Mark Teixeira. If they can't land Teixeira, they will consider Pat Burrell for first base.

SamBam39

12-02-2008, 10:04 AM

MFY's did NOT offer arbitration to Bobby Abreu.

Mikiemo83

12-02-2008, 12:14 PM

MFY's did NOT offer arbitration to Bobby Abreu.
WTF? are they doing this off season

they are down a few players...must be a payroll cut bacuse of the Ortiz shirt removal construction over-run

Rhodypatsfan

12-02-2008, 02:10 PM

WTF? are they doing this off season

they are down a few players...must be a payroll cut bacuse of the Ortiz shirt removal construction over-run

It doesn't look like they offered it to anyone. Only Abreu would have been worth keeping anyway. Maybe Pettite.

3 Point Stan

12-02-2008, 02:54 PM

I think Abreu would've cost them something like $16 million if they offered him arbitration. I am not surprised by this.

SamBam39

12-02-2008, 03:23 PM

They are saving their money for CC and Tex!!!! :(

Mikiemo83

12-02-2008, 04:07 PM

CC wants west coast and I bet takes less money to avoid both NY bidders

southcarolina

12-02-2008, 06:44 PM

Here is a list of players offered or not offered arbitration

Offered arbitration:
Angels: Mark Teixeira(A), Francisco Rodriguez(A), Jon Garland(B), Darren Oliver(A),
Blue Jays: A.J. Burnett (A)
Brewers: Ben Sheets(A), C.C. Sabathia(A), Brian Shouse (B)
Diamondbacks: Orlando Hudson(A), Brandon Lyon(B), Juan Cruz (B)
Dodgers: Manny Ramirez(A), Derek Lowe(A), Casey Blake(B)
Mariners: Raul Ibanez (A)
Mets: Oliver Perez (A)
Rangers: Milton Bradley(B)
Reds: David Weathers (B)
Red Sox: Jason Varitek (A), Paul Byrd (B)
Royals: Mark Grudzielanek (B)
Rockies: Brian Fuentes
Twins: Dennys Reyes (B)
White Sox: Orlando Cabrera (A)

Not offered arbitration:
Angels: Garret Anderson, Juan Rivera, Brad Ausmus
Astros: Randy Wolf, Mark Loretta, Doug Brocail
Athletics: Frank Thomas, Alan Embree, Keith Foulke, Emil Brown
Blue Jays: Gregg Zaun
Braves: John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Mike Hampton, Will Ohman, Greg Norton, Julian Tavarez, Elmer Dessens, Jorge Julio.
Brewers: Eric Gagne
Cardinals: Braden Looper, Russ Springer, Jason Isringhausen, Mark Mulder, Juan Encarnacion, Felipe Lopez, Cesar Izturis, Ron Villone.
Cubs: Kerry Wood, Bobby Howry,Jim Edmonds, Daryle Ward, Henry Blanco
Diamondbacks: Adam Dunn, Randy Johnson, Tony Clack, David Eckstein
Dodgers: Joe Beimel, Brad Penny, Jeff Kent, Greg Maddux, Rafael Furcal, Chan Ho Park, Nomar Garciaparra, Mark Sweeney, Jason Johnson, Gary Bennett, Pablo Ozuna
Mariners:Willie Bloomquist, Miguel Cairo,
Marlins: Arthur Rhodes, Luis Gonzalez, Paul Lo Duca, Mark Hendrickson
Mets: Moises Alou, Luis Ayala, Damion Easley, Tony Armas Jr., Orlando Hernandez, Ramon Martinez, Trot Nixon, Ricardo Rincon, Matt Wise, Pedro Martinez
Nats: Aaron Boone, Odalis Perez
Rangers: Jason Jennings, Jamey Wright, Ramon Vazquez.
Rays: Eric Hinske, Rocco Baldelli, Cliff Floyd, Trever Miller.
RedSox: Bartolo Colon, Curt Schilling, Mike Timlin, David Ross, Sean Casey, Alex Cora, Mark Kotsay.
Padres: Trevor Hoffman
Phillies: Pat Burrell, Jamie Moyer, Rudy Seanez, Tom Gordon
Tigers: Edgar Renteria,Kenny Rogers, Kyle Farnsworth, Freddy Garcia, Casey Fossum, Vance Wilson.
Twins:Adam Everett, Eddie Guardado, Nick Punto,
White Sox: Ken Griffey, Jr., Juan Uribe
Yankees: Bobby Abreu, Andy Pettitte, Jason Giambi, Ivan Rodriguez, Sidney Ponson, Carl Pavano, Chad Moeller

SamBam39

12-03-2008, 12:14 AM

Vazquez and possibly Boone Logan from the ChiSox to the Braves for IF Brent Lillibridge, C Tyler Flowers and another player.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8882368/Sources:-Braves-reach-deal-for-ChiSox's-Vazquez?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

SamBam39

12-04-2008, 01:43 AM

Looks like the Giants are close to signing Renteria.

Edgar Renteria, the Tigers’ starting shortstop this year, appears to be nearing a deal with the San Francisco Giants

http://www.freep.com/article/20081203/SPORTS02/81203119/1050/rss15

SamBam39

12-04-2008, 01:50 AM

Padres are looking to trade Khalil Green. Where? Maybe Baltimore or St. Louis.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/khalil_greene_o.html

It's official. To the Cards for two relief prospects.

SamBam39

12-07-2008, 02:50 PM

Yankees meet with Teixeira. Maybe a fall back plan if Sabathia signs elsewhere?

The New York Times reported Friday morning on its web site that New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman met with Mark Teixeira in Washington. Agent Scott Boras was present. Tyler Kepner sums up the Yankees' current free agent stance: "The Yankees' priority is pitching, and Cashman met with Teixeira at the request of the agent Scott Boras, who also represents starters Derek Lowe and Oliver Perez and outfielder Manny Ramirez. Boras was present at the meeting with Teixeira, who was visiting family in Maryland. The Yankees would love to add Teixeira, a switch-hitter with power who has won two Gold Gloves. But it is unlikely they could sign both Teixeira and Sabathia, to whom they offered a six-year, $140 million deal on Nov. 14." ...

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 11:37 AM

One less Texas catcher is now available as the Tigers acquire Gerald Laird for AA RHP Guillermo Mocosco and a 17 yr old pitcher Carlos Melo from the Dominican Summer League.

Laird traded to Tigers (http://windowsxp-privacy.net/?id=12193338844)

Mikiemo83

12-08-2008, 12:12 PM

One less Texas catcher is now available as the Tigers acquire Gerald Laird for AA RHP Guillermo Mocosco and a 17 yr old pitcher from the Dominican Summer League.

Laird traded to Tigers (http://windowsxp-privacy.net/?id=12193338844)on the bright side it means one less player for Tek

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 12:20 PM

The Tigers were a team that many were saying might be a suitor for Tek. Not now.

nomars_girl

12-08-2008, 02:21 PM

The Tigers were a team that many were saying might be a suitor for Tek. Not now.

I think Tek will end up back here and for a lot less than he would have gotten in arbitration. Boras miscalculated here.

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 05:12 PM

You might be right. Of the teams that had an interest:
Tigers- made a trade for Laird

Florida- has said he is too expensive (surprise, surprise)

Yankees???!!!!!- (gulp) if Posada's shoulder doesn't recover there is some whispering they might have an interest

I still think the Sox will probably be the best bet...but stayed tuned.

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 05:17 PM

Yanks are talking to the Dodgers about Robinson Cano!

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 06:44 PM

Mets have made a 3 year offer to K-Rod.

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 07:04 PM

Forget about Detroit trading for Jack Wilson or Julio Lugo. Looks like they are set to sign free agent SS Adam Everett.

The Detroit Tigers will not trade for Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson, apparently because they are set to sign free agent Adam Everett, a source said today at Major League Baseball's Winter Meetings.

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2008/12/08/tigers-will-not-trade-for-wilson.aspx

3 Point Stan

12-08-2008, 07:08 PM

Forget about Detroit trading for Jack Wilson or Julio Lugo. Looks like they are set to sign free agent SS Adam Everett.

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2008/12/08/tigers-will-not-trade-for-wilson.aspx

I was wondering why they wouldn't just do that in the first place. I wouldn't trade an envelope full of anthrax for Julio Lugo.

SamBam39

12-08-2008, 07:22 PM

Well your wish came true! ;)

southcarolina

12-09-2008, 11:47 AM

Rodriguez, who turns 27 next month, saved a Major League-record 62 games last season, and Kinzer opened the bidding for him earlier this offseason at five years and $75 million. He has since backed off those weighty demands. People familiar with the discussions told SI.com that the deal is likely to be for three years and about $37 million.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081209&content_id=3708000&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

SamBam39

12-09-2008, 12:12 PM

Blue Jays who will most likely lose out on Burnett are looking at Furcal to play shortstop.

SamBam39

12-09-2008, 12:15 PM

Looks like Casey Blake is going back to the Dodgers.

The Los Angeles Dodgers are nearing a contract agreement with third baseman Casey Blake after raising their offer to three years, sources said Monday morning.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvSXHE6eJMhlbm08m2.WPX48R9MF?slug=ti-blakedodgers120808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

southcarolina

12-09-2008, 12:25 PM

Looks like Casey Blake is going back to the Dodgers.

I saw that....looks like one possible destination for Mike Lowell (if the Sox sign Teixeira) just dried up.

southcarolina

12-09-2008, 12:28 PM

There were a few good rumors, too -- Ramon Hernandez possibly going to Cincinnati for Ryan Freel, the Blue Jays perhaps considering getting in on shortstop Rafael Furcal and the Rays being interested in outfielder Milton Bradley.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081209&content_id=3707488&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

If Bradley could come anywhere close to his last year stats, he would be HUGE upgrade over Cliff Floyd at DH in TB. Thats pretty scary actually. Ive been having this recurring nightmare that Adam Dunn signs to the the Rays DH next season, now i have another reason to worry.

Mikiemo83

12-09-2008, 02:17 PM

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/12/a_few_things_he.html

Posted by Nick Cafardo, Globe Staff December 9, 2008 04:34 AM
LAS VEGAS - A few things heard while walking through the Bellagio Hotel early this morning at the Baseball Winter Meetings:

1. The Red Sox are one of a few teams mentiond by agent Tom O'Connell as interested parties for free-agent right-hander Carl Pavano, a former Red Sox farmhand. Florida seems to be the favorite. The Yankees are also in it....

2. Milton Bradley is in intense discussions with the Cubs.

3. The Tigers are eyeing Kerry Wood on a two-year deal.

4. The Mets were closing in on a three-year deal for closer Frankie Rodriguez.

5. The Dodgers are about to sign former Red Sox second baseman Mark Loretta and third baseman Casey Blake.

6. The Dodgers did at one time have interest in Jason Varitek.

7. The Brewers may not bring Gabe Kapler back because they need a left-handed hitter,

8. Talks were again heating up between the Padres and Cubs on Jake Peavy.

9. Saw Mike Pagliarulo, Ellis Burks, Lou Merloni, Mike Easler and Brian Daubach.

10, One Phillies official denies the presence of a three-year deal for Derek Lowe, while another major league source says Lowe likes the Phillies as a possible destination.

11. The Red Sox also have interest in free-agent righty Brad Penny.

12. Agent Alan Hendricks said the Dodgers interest in Andy Pettitte is real because of Joe Torre, Pettitte's former manager in New York. Says client Rogers Clemens is trying to keep a low profile.

13. If the Cubs obtain Jake Peavy, Jason Marquis or Rich Harden become trade bait.

14. Jim Leyland has grown a winter beard.

15. Rafael Furcal is talking to Toronto.

southcarolina

12-09-2008, 03:04 PM

14. Jim Leyland has grown a winter beard.

Is Theo aware of this? Does this mean te Tigers are going to make a play for Teixeira? This is potentially HUGE!!!

Rhodypatsfan

12-09-2008, 07:26 PM

The Indians appear to be close to signing closer Kerry Wood to a two-year contract, MLB.com has learned.
A third-year option may or may not be included. If Wood signs with the Indians, it would increase the Tigers' sense of urgency in talks for J.J. Putz.
Source: Indians.mlb.com Dec. 9 - 2:30 pm et

SamBam39

12-09-2008, 08:13 PM

Looks like Jason Giambi is close to signing with the A's.

southcarolina

12-09-2008, 08:18 PM

Looks like Jason Giambi is close to signing with the A's.

Is he bringing the pornstache, or did the Yankees get it in the divorce settlement?

SamBam39

12-09-2008, 08:26 PM

Porn stache goes with steroid boy.

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 12:20 AM

Looks like K-Rod to the Mets is official.

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 01:06 AM

Looks like K-Rod to the Mets is official.so does Wagner return prior to K-Rod going down?

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 03:14 AM

so does Wagner return prior to K-Rod going down?

I think by most reports Wagner is supposed to miss all of 2009.

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 09:48 AM

Rockies have signed Alan Embree. 1 yr $2.5m

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_11181039?source=rss

Rhodypatsfan

12-10-2008, 11:59 AM

And CC is going to be a Yankee. More or less made official at 6 this morning.

Rhodypatsfan

12-10-2008, 12:00 PM

I think by most reports Wagner is supposed to miss all of 2009.

Wagner is definitely going to miss all of '09.

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 12:06 PM

Rockies have signed Alan Embree. 1 yr $2.5m

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_11181039?source=rss
How on earth can this man still warrant a $2.5 million contract?

LIFE = UNFAIR!

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 12:07 PM

And CC is going to be a Yankee. More or less made official at 6 this morning.
Good thing that the Dodgers made signing Mark Loretta and Casey Blake their top two priorities over negotiating with CC.

WTF...

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 12:08 PM

I think by most reports Wagner is supposed to miss all of 2009.

Wagner is definitely going to miss all of '09.
so he returns in 2010.....so will KRod still be healthy

the Angels seem to think something is up by not offering him a contract, I think I remember hearing his velocity dropped down quite a bit last season and that little body with that violent delivery does not make a good match for longevity

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 12:16 PM

He lost about 5 mph on his fastball from the beginning of the season to the end. He was around 97 mph at the beginning and then fell to around 92mph. Feeling is that new league and with the 2 changeups he has developed he might be ok for a year unless he finds his velocity again.

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 12:16 PM

And CC is going to be a Yankee. More or less made official at 6 this morning.
Link?

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 01:16 PM

so he returns in 2010.....so will KRod still be healthy

Wagner is only under contract thru 2009 with the Mets

the Angels seem to think something is up by not offering him a contract, I think I remember hearing his velocity dropped down quite a bit last season and that little body with that violent delivery does not make a good match for longevity

I think a lot of it had to do with that young kid who was setting up for KRod..err....*goes to look up his name*...Jose Arredondo....he had a WHIP of 1.049 in 61 IP last season, and is only 24. Now KRod is obviously over valued right now because of his record last season. The Angels were said to be grooming Arredondo to be the closer eventually. Unless the kid just absolutely implodes, they should have a very good closer at a fraction of the cost of KRod.

The couple of times i saw him pitch Arredondo looked NASTY.

Arredondo throws a 94-96 mph fastball that has left-to-right action late in the zone. He has a splitter that sits at 84-86 mph, and a slider that’s 86-89 mph. His splitter is ridiculous. It kind of reminds me of Kelvim Escobar’s out pitch. I don’t see how anyone hits it. It’s got short action, dropping 6-8 inches when it hits the strike zone. It’s not like Harden’s splitter, dropping from the time it leaves his hand. With the 10 mph differential in velocity between his fastball and splitter/slider, he should be an elite late-inning reliever. And his slider looks like a splitter. It’s more of a slurve. But it’s so good that his K/9 will/should–barring injury–always be 9+.
Arredondo doesn’t really have a solid minor-league pedigreee, but he’s eerily similar to (Francisco) Rodriguez: a huge year at A+, a great 1/4 season at AA, and a great 1/4 season at AAA. And then he’s too good to keep in the minors. He also reminds me of Tony Pena. Maybe that’s the better comparison; but, physically, Arredondo is Rodriguez. He looks like Rodriguez, he has the same arm action as Rodriguez, and he lands exactly the same as Rodriguez. He’s the same height as Rodriguez, and he weighs the same as Rodriguez.http://www.fantasysportstrades.com/2008/05/jose-arredondo-scouting-report-1a/

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 01:23 PM

I knew Wagner is being paid to get healthy for someone else in 2010 and I know about the kid coming up much like KRod to Percival

I just see the violent action, the alleged drop in velocity and see a short shelf life in the Rotten Apple

personal opinion I think by mid 2010 Wagner is pitching again and KRod isn't

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 01:30 PM

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 02:00 PM

Rotoworld is reporting that the MFY's are close to signing Derek Lowe!!

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 02:37 PM

Rotoworld is reporting that the MFY's are close to signing Derek Lowe!!
just what he needs - a 4am closing time.....

Bases Loaded

12-10-2008, 03:00 PM

No Market for Manny (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnZfzapUU1CJV0VaI76FGQ05nYcB?slug=ti-mannymarket120908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 03:07 PM

just what he needs - a 4am closing time.....
I thought the same thing

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 03:23 PM

16 million a year for Derek Lowe. Man that is a lot of scratch if true.

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 03:29 PM

16 million a year for Derek Lowe. Man that is a lot of scratch if true.
and isn't this Becketts last year of his deal

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 04:00 PM

and isn't this Becketts last year of his deal

The Sox have a 12 mil option for 2010.

Rhodypatsfan

12-10-2008, 06:28 PM

16 million a year for Derek Lowe. Man that is a lot of scratch if true.

Somethink like 4-5 years at 66 mil?

Bases Loaded

12-10-2008, 07:09 PM

I'm really starting to hope we are seriously players for Burnett ... he has some of the filthiest stuff in the majors, and we are deep enough to risk his injuries.

Mikiemo83

12-10-2008, 07:37 PM

why no talk of Sheets

same a Burnett injury wise

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 07:46 PM

I would take Sheets or Burnett.

I really don't care what the Sox pay for FA's because it would seem they have enough home-grown talent to balance the price-tag. For what they pay a Teixeira or a Burnett, they have an Ellsbury and a Youkilis and a Papelbon to soften those hefty blows just a tad.

Rhodypatsfan

12-10-2008, 08:16 PM

A source from a team that is involved in negotiations told the L.A. Times that the Nats will go to 10 years and more than $20 million per season for Mark Teixeira.
The same source said the Orioles would possibly be willing to go to nine years for at least $20 million a year. This is just one anonymous source from a team not at all involved in negotiations, so we're surprised the Times ran with it. The report certainly doesn't prove anyone with any reason to put much stock into it.
Source: Los Angeles Times Dec. 10 - 4:01 pm et

3 Point Stan

12-10-2008, 08:16 PM

Regardless of the cost, 10 years on any player is insane. They can have him.

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 08:31 PM

I'm really starting to hope we are seriously players for Burnett ... he has some of the filthiest stuff in the majors, and we are deep enough to risk his injuries.

I think to a certain extent his "injury history" isnt as bad as people make it out to be....everyone likes to say "oh he's been on the disabled list 10 times" but lts take a closer look:

from http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player_career.jsp?player_id=150359

1997(minors): Went on DL from June 17-July 1 due to a broken left foot.

1998(minors): Missed the first six weeks of the season (April 9-May 16) after undergoing surgery to repair a broken right hand.

2000: Suffered a complete rupture of his ulnar collateral ligament in his right thumb during pitcher's fielding practice on Tuesday, March 14 at Spring Training in Viera... Surgery was performed on March 21 by Dr. Brian Fingado at Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale.

2001:Began the season on the 15-day DL with a stress fracture to the fifth metatarsal in his right foot... Diagnosed during an examination by Dr. Robert Mills in Fort Lauderdale on February 22... Was placed on the 15-day DL on March 31 retroactive to March 23... Had his injury rehab assignment recalled on May 1 and made his season debut on May 7 at LA vs. Kevin Brown.

2002:Was placed on the disabled list on August 19 with a right acute bone bruise. Was activated from the DL on September 14 and made four appearances after his return.

2003: Saw his season end after four starts as he underwent Tommy John surgery on his right elbow on April 29... The surgery to repair the torn elbow ligament was performed in a 90-minute procedure by Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Alabama... Began the season on the disabled list (retroactive to March 21) with synovitis in his right elbow.

2004: Made his return from Tommy John Surgery and posted a 7-6 record with a 3.68 ERA in 20 games (19 starts)

2005: Missed the last month of 2005 due to disciplinary issues that had nothing to do with his health.

2006: Had two separate stints on the disabled list in 2006 with scar tissue break-up caused from previous elbow surgery... Began the season on the DL, and was activated on Apr. 15... Made two starts before being placed back on the DL Apr. 22... Was activated June 22 for the balance of the season.

2007:Spent time on the disabled list twice with a shoulder strain (June 13-28 and June 29-Aug. 12)...Made one start between stints on the disabled list...Upon returning from the disabled list Aug 12, posted a 5-2 record with a 3.01 ERA in 10 starts

1) Of his 10 trips to the DL, only the trips after 2003 concern me. Bone bruises and broken metatarsels happen to young men. They werent injuries to his pitching arm, so they shouldnt cause him any issue pitching going forward.

2) Im still only seeing 9 trips to the DL after he reached the majors. Is 2004 counted as a separate trip from 2003, even though it was for the same issue?

3) Teams seem to like to put him on the DL, bring him back a couple of weeks later, let him pitch one or two games, and then put him back on the DL for an extended period. I think that makes his trips to the DL look a lot worse than they really are. In 2003, the two DL trips seem odd. Synovitus is basically inflamation of the membranes which line those joints which possess cavities, namely synovial joints (like the elbow) It just seems a little suspicious to me that he is diagnosed with synovitus, misses two weeks, comes back and pitches 4 games, and then all of a sudden his Ulnar collateral ligament tears. Could the synovitus have been misdiagnosed? To me these two DL trips should almost be counted as one. Same in 2006, when the Blue Jays did the same thing, sandwiching two trips to the DL for scar tissue around two starts. And then again in 2007 the Jays sandwich two trips to the DL around one start. So thats 6 trips to the DL that really probably should have been 3.

4) Also, Burnett missed a lot of time in 2003, 2004, and 2006 with ihis TJ issues, but in reality it was all time missed due to one problem, and a problem that a lot of pitchers have, and come back from just fine, and from which he seems to have recovered from well enough.

5) He missed time again in 2007 for a shoulder strain. I dont know the specifics but he finished the years strong, so i suppose he recovered ok.

Im not saying that they guy is a model of health, just that there is more than "he's been on the DL 10 times" when you scratch the surface.

SamBam39

12-10-2008, 09:00 PM

But is that a pitcher you want to give a 5 year contract to? Because that is probably what it would take to get him and I don't think the Sox are willing to go there.

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 09:53 PM

But is that a pitcher you want to give a 5 year contract to? Because that is probably what it would take to get him and I don't think the Sox are willing to go there.

I dont know. The TJ stuff is behind him. The other non pitching arm stuff is almost irrelevant. Other than that, he has had what amounts to one trip to the DL, for a shoulder strain last season. I dont really know how serious that is, but i do know that since he returned from that DL trip (August 12, 2007) Burnett has done this:

45 starts
292.3 IP
263 hits
124 earned runs
112 walks
301 strike outs
3.81 ERA
1.28 WHIP

So he is obviously healthy now. Will he stay healthy? Who knows. But here is the injury history of another pitcher, before he was acquired by Boston.

2000 (minors):had 2 stints on the D.L. with right shoulder tendinitis.

[May 1,2002] - 15 Day Disabled list - (blister on the middle finger of his right hand)
[May 14,2002] - Activated
[Jun 5,2002] - 15 Day Disabled list - (right middle finger blister)
[Aug 24,2002] - 15 Day Disabled list - (blister to his right middle finger)
[Sep 11,2002] - Activated
[May 9,2003] - 15 Day Disabled list - (right elbow sprain)
[Jul 1,2003] - Activated
[May 31,2004] - 15 Day Disabled list - (blister to his right middle finger)
[Jun 16,2004] - Activated
[Jun 25,2004] - 15 Day Disabled list - (pulled muscle in his lower back)
[Jul 5,2004] - Activated
[Jul 6,2004] - 15 Day Disabled list - (skin tear to his right middle finger)
[Jul 30,2004] - Activated
[Jun 17,2005] - 15 Day Disabled list - (blister to his right middle finger)
[Jun 30,2005] - Activated
[Jul 8,2005] - 15 Day Disabled list - (left oblique strain)
[Jul 23,2005] - Activated

That pitcher of course was Josh Beckett. When the Sox acquired him he has had 9 teips to the DL in his major league career, plus two more in the minors.

Burnett has all the talent in the world, but of course no one knows what will happen in the future. Obviously you cant just completely discount his medical history. But i think to just say "No way no how" without actually looking at that medical history is just as bad. Im thinking more and more that he just has a bad rap as a fragile pitcher.

To me Burnett would be worth the risk.

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 10:15 PM

And of course snce i spent the last 90 minuts looking all that stuff up, now i see this:

The Braves will guarantee A.J. Burnett a fifth year, and the Yankees are now going to revise their offer.

There's a good chance that the bidding will exceed the total value of Carlos Zambrano's five-year, $91.5 million extension with the Cubs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=winter_meetings_2008

Now 91 mil is more than i was thinking. 5 yrs at 75 mil i could stomach. Five years at 91 mil or more, sheesh i dont know.

tommysgirl

12-10-2008, 11:14 PM

And of course snce i spent the last 90 minuts looking all that stuff up, now i see this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=winter_meetings_2008

Now 91 mil is more than i was thinking. 5 yrs at 75 mil i could stomach. Five years at 91 mil or more, sheesh i dont know.

I came here to post this and it was already here.:sulk:

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 11:35 PM

The New York Yankees, making a hard late charge to beat out the Atlanta Braves for A.J. Burnett, offered the free-agent right-hander a guaranteed five-year contract Wednesday, a baseball source told ESPN.com.

The Braves, who had offered a four-year deal with a fifth-year option worth a guaranteed $60-65 million before the meetings, have also expressed a willingness to go to five years on Burnett if necessary.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3761008

southcarolina

12-10-2008, 11:37 PM

I came here to post this and it was already here.:sulk:

Im sorry. Hell i was surprised i beat SamBam. Im pretty sure he is secretly recording the FO discussions about the offseason.

tommysgirl

12-10-2008, 11:59 PM

Im sorry. Hell i was surprised i beat SamBam. Im pretty sure he is secretly recording the FO discussions about the offseason.

It's okay. How's the back anyway handsome?

southcarolina

12-11-2008, 12:11 AM

It's okay. How's the back anyway handsome?

Im doing better. Still a touch of pain every now and then, but its getting better each day.

southcarolina

12-11-2008, 02:57 AM

Jackson to Tigers for OF Matt Joyce.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8922020/Wednesday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog

Never heard of Joyce. Gonna hafta do some research.

Looks like a decent bat, but nothing special.

Career 804 minor league OPS.

Hit 12 HRs and had a 831 OPS in 240 abs for the Tigers in 2008. :shrug:

Seems like they could have gotten more for Jackson.

southcarolina

12-11-2008, 03:05 AM

J.J. Putz could be headed to the Mets in a three-team trade with the Mariners and Indians, according to major-league sources.

Under terms of the deal, the Mets would get Putz, outfielder Jeremy Reed and reliever Sean Green from Seattle. The Mariners would receive reliever Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez and first baseman Mike Carp from the Mets. They'd also get Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians and minor leaguers. The Indians would get reliever Joe Smith from the Mets and infielder Luis Valbuena from Seattle.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8922020/Wednesday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 09:57 AM

The Mets deal is now confirmed!

The Mariners receive reliever Aaron Heilman, outfielder Endy Chavez, first baseman Mike Carp, and minor leaguers Maikel Cleto, Jason Vargas and Ezequiel Carrera from the Mets. They also get Franklin Gutierrez from the Indians.

The Indians get reliever Joe Smith from the Mets and infielder Luis Valbuena from Seattle.

From the Mets' perspective, the deal is Heilman and Smith for Putz. Chavez and Reed are simply an exchange of backup outfielders, Smith and Green are an exchange of right-handed groundball specialists.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8925968/Sources:-Mets-acquire-Putz-from-Seattle

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 10:00 AM

Royals getting some bullpen "help"

the Royals reached an agreement with reliever Kyle Farnsworth on a two-year, $9.25MM deal (pending a physical).

sleepyjean

12-11-2008, 12:37 PM

And of course snce i spent the last 90 minuts looking all that stuff up, now i see this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=winter_meetings_2008

Now 91 mil is more than i was thinking. 5 yrs at 75 mil i could stomach. Five years at 91 mil or more, sheesh i dont know. Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate all your research. Saved me a lot of time. :)

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 01:10 PM

Im sorry. Hell i was surprised i beat SamBam. Im pretty sure he is secretly recording the FO discussions about the offseason.
Because you actually have a life, while I, on the other hand, have nothing else to do. :)

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Yankees to trade Melky Cabrera for Mike Cameron.

The Yankees have found their center fielder for 2009, as they are set to send Melky Cabreravto Milwaukee for veteran outfielder Mike Cameron on Thursday, according to two major league sources.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/12/11/2008-12-11_sources_yankees_to_trade_melky_cabrera_t-1.html

sleepyjean

12-11-2008, 04:02 PM

Because you actually have a life, while I, on the other, hand have nothing else to do. :) I don't really have a life. I'm just lazy! :)

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 04:43 PM

Reds signed Arthur Rhodes 2 yrs $4m.

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 06:44 PM

Twins re-signed IF Nick Punto 2 yrs $8.5m

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 06:46 PM

Yankees to trade Melky Cabrera for Mike Cameron.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/12/11/2008-12-11_sources_yankees_to_trade_melky_cabrera_t-1.html

Deal is hitting a roadblock as Yanks want Brewers to pick up part of Cameron's salary and Brewers want a second player. Yanks offered Kei Igawa.

southcarolina

12-11-2008, 06:49 PM

Deal is hitting a roadblock as Yanks want Brewers to pick up part of Cameron's salary and Brewers want a second player. Yanks offered Kei Igawa.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL

*breath*

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

*passes out*

SamBam39

12-11-2008, 07:50 PM

MFY's are about to add Burnett.

FoxSports.com's Ken Rosenthal writes that the Yankees are the clear favorite now to land righthander A.J. Burnett. He reports that Burnett's representatives were expected to contact interested clubs at some point today, giving them one last chance to beat the Yankees offer of five years and approximately $85 million. According to Rosenthal, the "Braves have offered four years and an easily attainable vesting option for a fifth year that would put the total value of their package to about $80 million, according to sources. To land Burnett, they would need to guarantee the fifth year and increase their financial offer."

southcarolina

12-11-2008, 10:44 PM

MFY's are about to add Burnett.

Like i said earlier in this thread, the dude is a ticking time bomb. Im so glad the Sox didnt get him.

/waffler

:D

SamBam39

12-12-2008, 01:13 AM

Manny is threatening retirement if he doesn't get an offer he likes soon. What a maroon!!!

Manny Ramirez is growing extremely upset about the lack of suitors for his services, so much so that he has told friends he would contemplate retirement if a suitable offer doesn't arrive soon, a person close to the situation told Newsday

SamBam39

12-12-2008, 01:07 PM

Phillies signed Raul Ibanez to a 3 yr $30m deal pending a physical.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3764268&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

SamBam39

12-12-2008, 01:53 PM

Mets are looking to sign Alex Cora.

SamBam39

12-12-2008, 03:58 PM

Indians are close to a deal with Reliever Kerry Wood.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3764129&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

southcarolina

12-12-2008, 09:13 PM

Free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett has reached a preliminary agreement with the Yankees on a five-year, $82.5 million contract, according to major-league sources, joining lefty CC Sabathia in the team's revamped rotation. The deal is pending Burnett's physical.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8932446/Sources:-Yanks,-Burnett-reach-5-year,-$82.5M-deal

3 Point Stan

12-12-2008, 09:35 PM

Ben Sheets quietly looms in the shadows of free-agency.

Grumpy_Bottom

12-12-2008, 10:02 PM

Wow, the MFY's apparently haven't heard we're in a recession ;)

I truly hope the legendary history of overpaying for older players who don't produce to their pay grade holds up. This could be awesome!

Bases Loaded

12-13-2008, 04:08 AM

Ben Sheets quietly looms in the shadows of free-agency.

Man, would I like to see him in a Boston uniform next year.

southcarolina

12-13-2008, 05:43 AM

The right-hander had been a rotation mainstay for the Orioles, making at least 26 starts and pitching 140 innings in each of the last five years. Cabrera has a 48-59 record and a 5.05 ERA for his career, and he's led the American League in walks in two of the last three seasons. Last year, he went 6-5 with a 4.33 ERA before the All-Star Game and 2-5 with a 7.59 mark after it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081213&content_id=3716255&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

There goes 2 or 3 easy wins for the Sox next year. Too bad he is such a headcase...the kid has filthy stuff.

SamBam39

12-15-2008, 12:15 PM

Brian Fuentes looking to pitch in Cali?

"Anaheim would be a great fit, being a California kid," Fuentes said. "That would be my first choice."

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/196/story/592859.html

southcarolina

12-15-2008, 02:18 PM

Brian Fuentes looking to pitch in Cali?

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/196/story/592859.html

Somewhere, somehow, a rumor began kicking around the Bellagio this week, and naturally it quickly found its way around the nation. The rumor is that Brian Fuentes and his representative, Rick Thurman, are seeking a three-year, $33 million contract, or even that someone has already offered it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081211&content_id=3714781&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

Can you imagine the shitstorm if the Angels let KRawd walk and then sign Fuentes to a contract that saves the a TOTAL of 3 million dollars (over what the Mets paid to KRawd)? Unless the Angels know something about KRod's health that no one else does, thats seems like a decision that might come back to haunt them.

Mikiemo83

12-15-2008, 03:18 PM

Can you imagine the shitstorm if the Angels let KRawd walk and then sign Fuentes to a contract that saves the a TOTAL of 3 million dollars (over what the Mets paid to KRawd)? Unless the Angels know something about KRod's health that no one else does, thats seems like a decision that might come back to haunt them.they have to know something - I've been feeling it the whole time this guy was available

the money they are talking doesn't make sense to let him go and Pay Daisy's older brother to pitch...then again KRod took a lot less than originally rumored

SamBam39

12-15-2008, 04:20 PM

It seems pretty stupid. The Angels better hope that KRod doesn't have another HUGE year next year.

SamBam39

12-15-2008, 06:53 PM

Phillies are going to re-sign Jamie Moyer.

SamBam39

12-15-2008, 06:53 PM

A's are the frontrunners for Furcal. They have offered 4 yrs $40m

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3770877&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

southcarolina

12-15-2008, 11:52 PM

they have to know something - I've been feeling it the whole time this guy was available

the money they are talking doesn't make sense to let him go and Pay Daisy's older brother to pitch...then again KRod took a lot less than originally rumored

Considering the Indians just signed Kerry Wood to what amounts to a 3 yr 31.5 million dollar contract, as long as Wood finishes 55 games in either 2009 or 2010, the contract KRod signed is looking like a bargain. Either he REALLY wanted to pitch for the Mets, or he really does have some sort of injury, or his agent is incompetant.

southcarolina

12-16-2008, 12:54 PM

The Braves are on the verge of a major offseason upset.

Rafael Furcal is coming home.

In a stunning turnaround, the free-agent shortstop has chosen the Braves over the A's, according to a major-league source.

A contract agreement is expected to be announced Tuesday, conditional on Furcal passing a physical.

Furcal would play shortstop or second base for the Braves, depending upon which other moves the team makes.

"They're in deep," Furcal's agent, Paul Kinzer, told FOXSports.com on Monday night, before a decision had been reached. "He's seriously considering it."

The A's are believed to have made the high offer for Furcal — four years in the $40 million range, according to major-league sources.

The Braves, however, made a late, rapid push for Furcal, and their offer was believed to be for three years with a vesting option for a fourth season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8947764/Braves-seeking-to-bring-Furcal-back-to-Atlanta

Looks like Yunel Escobar might be available :)

southcarolina

12-17-2008, 02:04 PM

BALDELLI MISSED MUCH OF LAST SEASON, AND WHEN HE DID PLAY, HE WAS LIMITED BECAUSE OF EXTREME FATIQUE. DOCTORS THOUGHT IT WAS MITOCHONDRIAL DISORDER WHICH CAN BE FATAL.
THE BALDELLI FAMILY TOLD ME TONIGHT THAT THE CLEVELAND CLINIC DIAGNOSED HIS CONDITION AS CHANNEL-OPATHY, A NON-PROGRESSIVE, HIGHLY TREATABLE DISEASE.

http://www.abc6.com/sports/36277274.html

Mikiemo83

12-17-2008, 02:46 PM

Quick Sign him up

southcarolina

12-17-2008, 03:42 PM

Quick Sign him up

Seriously. The problem is now that he might not be as sick as once thought, he might be looking for a starting job. Hell TB will probably resign him now.

LOL i just looked at his contract...the Rays had to pay a 4 million dollar buyout on his contract. If they had picked up the option it would have cost them 6 million. So this misdiagnosis might have cost them an AS quality OFer who was very very cheap. But at least it saved them 2 million dollars :D

Even his options for 2010 and 2011 were only 8 and 9 million dollars. Thats bargain basement prices. Someone may have seriously screwed the pooch on this one.

Mikiemo83

12-17-2008, 04:32 PM

looks like he has a malpractice suit for lost wages...sign him cheap so the medical insurance can pay him :D

southcarolina

12-17-2008, 05:33 PM

looks like he has a malpractice suit for lost wages...sign him cheap so the medical insurance can pay him :D

Nah...he'll make far more than that additional 2 million signing a FA contract with someone. Its the Rays who got screwed. I'll bet he signs a one year 6 or 8 million dollar contract with someone to re-establish his value as a starter.

He'd have to be willing to take a 3 or 4 million dollar contract to come to Boston.

I suppose Boston could offer him 6 million and tell him the starting CF job will be determined in ST. Maybe the opportunity to compete for the starters job would be enough to entice him to Boston. He has to know that he will get his playing time in RF and DH if Drew or Ortiz arent completely healthy. It would be a no lose situation for him . If he wins the starting job, well he gets 550+ at bats to prove he is healthy and productive. Even if he doesnt win the starting CF job, he is almost assured 350-400 at bats covering for Drew and/or Ortiz, plus normal days off and matchup days off.

Of course the Yankees are looking for CFer themselves, and would probably overpay for him to go there, and outright give him the starting job. F'ing Yankees. :cuss:

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 07:18 PM

Boston won't sign him. He wants a starting job.

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 07:25 PM

A's are the frontrunners for Furcal. They have offered 4 yrs $40m

Looks like Dodgers are now the frontrunners!

At the end of a couple of curious days, during which Rafael Furcal (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6404/;_ylt=Agcaeohh9oi1sUaUoLpD6TA8R9MF) reportedly agreed to sign with the Atlanta Braves (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/atl/;_ylt=AnLyrdiIRnf2uBK3wP_Gjso8R9MF), then resumed negotiations with the Los Angeles Dodgers (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/lad/;_ylt=AsgNrKHBDHhY.o36Dqhf8_c8R9MF) (depending on one’s perspective), the free-agent shortstop was nearing an agreement Wednesday morning to return to the Dodgers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-furcaldodgers121708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 07:37 PM

http://www.freep.com/article/20081216/SPORTS02/81216081/1050/rss15

Tigers are close to signing free agent catcher Matt Treanor.

Mikiemo83

12-17-2008, 08:17 PM

http://www.freep.com/article/20081216/SPORTS02/81216081/1050/rss15

Tigers are close to signing free agent catcher Matt Treanor.wow both Laird and Treanor

where will IRod end up? retired or DH for the A's

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 08:22 PM

Hopefully not on the Sox!!!

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 10:01 PM

Looks like it's official Furcal to the Dodgers. Terms not released yet.

Rafael Furcal has finally made up his mind. He's going back to Hollywood.Furcal, the top free-agent shortstop on the open market this year, has decided to sign with the Dodgers, major-league sources say. Furcal had been debating for the last two days between the Dodgers and the Braves

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8954110/Sources:-Furcal-picks-Dodgers-over-Braves

SamBam39

12-17-2008, 11:51 PM

It sounds as though the Yankees will not be getting Mike Cameron to play centerfield next year. That could change, of course, but I just got off the phone with Brewers GM Doug Melvin. He said: "Nothing new. At this point, I don't anticipate it's something that we would (do). ... I haven't talked to Brian (Cashman) since last week."
Stay tuned....this soap opera never seems to have a real ending.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2008/12/cameroncabrera_talks_off.html

southcarolina

12-18-2008, 01:04 AM

Boston won't sign him. He wants a starting job.

I know. Im just thinking wishfully. Of course if the Sox signed him, they could trade Ellsbury :)

SamBam39

12-18-2008, 09:51 AM

Anything is possible. He would be a very strong addition to the club and Bay only has a year left on his contract so who knows what would happen.

Mikiemo83

12-18-2008, 04:11 PM

this is Nomars Agent...the one who turned down the sox Offer of 4years 60 million, Albert Bells agent...they seem to attract DB's, I wonder if Furcal is one

well the arses are making friends

Braves Won't Be Dealing With Kinzer, Tellem
By Tim Dierkes [December 18 at 9:27am CST]
Based on Frank Wren's comments, the Braves won't be dealing with agents Paul Kinzer and Arn Tellem anytime soon due to the recent Rafael Furcal drama. Dylan Hernandez transcribes:

When WIFN talk show host Bill Shanks prefaced a question by saying that he knew Wren couldn't burn bridges with Kinzer and Tellem, Wren interjected, "That bridge is gone. I don't have to worry about burning it. The bridge is gone."

Most remaining clients represented by these agents don't fit for the Braves this offseason anyway. But Tellem does represent Randy Wolf. ESPN's Jerry Crasnick has a source saying it'd be "next to impossible" for the Braves to pursue Wolf now. You can find the full client list for Tellem's Wasserman Media Group here (click Management, then Baseball). Current Brave Peter Moylan is also represented by the firm.