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Cleveland Rox
10-18-2007, 08:01 PM
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CLEVELAND – If this American League championship series becomes too much to bear for the Boston Red Sox (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/bos/;_ylt=AmxqaYiddhvBQFb9aEdNniY8R9MF), if this deficit is too large and these Cleveland Indians (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/cle/;_ylt=AinCRTiTnDBDOXOhOVdkPJw8R9MF) too polished for their weary baseball psyches, it won't be Manny Ramirez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5132/;_ylt=At2GEQcOdWizScbOl5ODHWA8R9MF)'s head that fails them.
Manny's psyche is just fine.
"If it doesn't happen, who cares?" Ramirez said Wednesday afternoon. "There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
And this is the reason I am glad he is not in Cleveland. He just doesn't care about the team. Only the money and his stats.
Mikiemo83
10-18-2007, 08:06 PM
wrong, this goes to show how the pressure DOES NOT bother him, see unlike Tim Couch, Manny will not start crying on the field...there is no Crying in Baseball or Football but Couch was an wuss.
so what if a relaxed Manny helps win this thing, will you change your opinion?
of course not, your empty thought will never change
Cleveland Rox
10-18-2007, 08:09 PM
wrong, this goes to show how the pressure DOES NOT bother him, see unlike Tim Couch, Manny will not start crying on the field...there is no Crying in Baseball or Football but Couch was an wuss.
so what if a relaxed Manny helps win this thing, will you change your opinion?
of course not, your empty thought will never change
Nice mouth. I just was reporting the statement to the red sox fans.
Seriously, what does Tim Couch have anything to do with me reporting to Red Sox fans what Manny was quoted as saying?
Mikiemo83
10-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Nice mouth. I just was reporting the statement to the red sox fans.
Seriously, what does Tim Couch have anything to do with me reporting to Red Sox fans what Manny was quoted as saying?re read it
I said presssure does not get to him unlike Couch who couldn't handle it
Cleveland Rox
10-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Here is the link by the way
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-mannytoo101707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Cleveland Rox
10-18-2007, 08:13 PM
re read it
I said presssure does not get to him unlike Couch who couldn't handle it
I still do not understand what Tim Couch who has not been a Brown for a real long time has anything to with Manny stating "if we lose - who cares"
Mikiemo83
10-18-2007, 08:17 PM
I still do not understand what Tim Couch who has not been a Brown for a real long time has anything to with Manny stating "if we lose - who cares"
the quote has already been posted
Manny feels no pressure, that is what the article is being discussed here as, Tim Couch caved under pressure
I was making the comparison between two professional athletes and how pressure effects them
Cleveland Rox
10-18-2007, 08:31 PM
the quote has already been posted
Manny feels no pressure, that is what the article is being discussed here as, Tim Couch caved under pressure
I was making the comparison between two professional athletes and how pressure effects them
Well maybe you want to find a different athlete. Since Tim Couch only won a few games in his career for an expansion team and was never considered one of the top players of his era. Manny is not only one of highest payed athlete of all time, but he will most likely be elected to the hall of fame when it is all said and done. Apparently all of you Red Sox fans who go out and by his jerseys and his gear and cheer for him at the games, doesn't really matter. There is always next year.
:smiley_towel:
Mikiemo83
10-18-2007, 08:34 PM
Rick Ankeil and his wild pitches in the post season
trying to stay current athletes so you know who I am talking about
Bradys Bunch
10-18-2007, 08:34 PM
this guy is retarded
Mikiemo83
10-18-2007, 08:37 PM
this guy is retarded
no just real young BB, real young - guessing middle school and his only interest with the site is the Girlie pics... not that there is anything wrong with that, it perks my interest also
Mark_Henderson
10-18-2007, 09:21 PM
The important thing is that this site's mojo is growing enough to attract trolls.
nomars_girl
10-18-2007, 10:10 PM
The important thing is that this site's mojo is growing enough to attract trolls.
And this is a good thing? :blink:
Who invited this :bozo: anyway? (not you - the troll).
3 Point Stan
10-18-2007, 10:14 PM
You mean this guy is not P4E in disguise?
When I first heard it, I was pissed, thinking Manny really didn't care if they won, or lost, and then I realized how it was meant, although, he could have used better wording.... but, my guess is that his "english" is still somewhat limited and the knowledge of how to insert the words for proper interpretation.
NEM, DOLI
(Doctor Of Language Interpretation)
Tchok13
10-18-2007, 11:42 PM
When I first heard it, I was pissed, thinking Manny really didn't care if they won, or lost, and then I realized how it was meant, although, he could have used better wording.... but, my guess is that his "english" is still somewhat limited and the knowledge of how to insert the words for proper interpretation.
NEM, DOLI
(Doctor Of Language Interpretation)
If you see the whole interview, "I don't care" is not what he was trying to say.
babalu87
10-19-2007, 12:38 AM
CC Sabbathia will pull a Donnie Moore after he implodes again tonight
Manny = MEDIA blowing it out of proportion.
He also said IN THE SAME INTERVIEW
"throw away the records as long as I can get to the world series"
God, what a bunch of old ladies some people have become.
What did you want him to say?
Well, you know mang, I think I would go home and beat my wife , kick the dogs and then run nice warm bath, have a few percs and a big glass of rum.
Then slit my wrists and fall asleep
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 12:42 PM
When I first heard it, I was pissed, thinking Manny really didn't care if they won, or lost, and then I realized how it was meant, although, he could have used better wording.... but, my guess is that his "english" is still somewhat limited and the knowledge of how to insert the words for proper interpretation.
NEM, DOLI
(Doctor Of Language Interpretation)
I can see it. Although Manny was a part of my organization for a while. He is a selfish player and not a team player. He is not on the level of Barry, but he definitely cares more about his numbers than how anyone else does on the team. The only number he cares about that requires team effort is RBIs. Don't get me wrong though. Statistically speaking, he could go down at one of the top 5 greatest hitters of all time which is an amazing accomplishment in this day of era.
PS - Trolls I am trying to have a good discussion with Red Sox fans who do not want to be trolls and harass me. Its fine if you dislike my team...blah blah Rick Ankiel blah blah...Please start a new thread called Cleveland Rox Bashing and I will leave a message or two so that you can twist my words on this forum. Thanks and have a wonderful Friday.
babalu87
10-19-2007, 01:10 PM
Manny is a team player you moran
The guy is the MVP of the ALCS as of today, keep knocking him as he continues to knock you pitchers around like a cabin biatch
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 01:17 PM
I can see it. Although Manny was a part of my organization for a while. He is a selfish player and not a team player. He is not on the level of Barry, but he definitely cares more about his numbers than how anyone else does on the team. The only number he cares about that requires team effort is RBIs. Don't get me wrong though. Statistically speaking, he could go down at one of the top 5 greatest hitters of all time which is an amazing accomplishment in this day of era.
PS - Trolls I am trying to have a good discussion with Red Sox fans who do not want to be trolls and harass me. Its fine if you dislike my team...blah blah Rick Ankiel blah blah...Please start a new thread called Cleveland Rox Bashing and I will leave a message or two so that you can twist my words on this forum. Thanks and have a wonderful Friday.
listen, if you want a civil discussion stay civil, don't put a lame disclaimer in insulting others asking not to be insulted....we clear?
don't add A line like this - I got a whole bunch of insults I have yet to use and am looking for a reason - because I do and cleveland brings out the worst in me
Manny is a team player this year but his past injury Questions made it appear his oblique took to long to heal and he is also a bit of a show boat. the Homerun walk is done 2-3 times a year where he ends up on 1st base because he miss judged something and did the stupid walk.
If you saw the whole interview with manny about it not being the end of the world, he was talking about how the team is relaxed and in his mispoken english it came out as he doesn't care. In my opinion he does care,more than many, but he also has the mentality of a 15 y.o. kid with his parents credit card and Benz - he is living large and knows it.
as for comparing Barry to Manny you are wrong, team mates love Manny for the ball player he is, yes of course they wish he would play hurt more but at least Manny shows passion... during one at bat you could hear him yell at a foul ball... the man work at his craft which on any other team would be hitting only but Papi is an 30 something year old man in a 50 something year old body. Barry is an evil Arse, Manny is a immature kid
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 01:54 PM
listen, if you want a civil discussion stay civil, don't put a lame disclaimer in insulting others asking not to be insulted....we clear?
don't add A line like this - I got a whole bunch of insults I have yet to use and am looking for a reason - because I do and cleveland brings out the worst in me
Manny is a team player this year but his past injury Questions made it appear his oblique took to long to heal and he is also a bit of a show boat. the Homerun walk is done 2-3 times a year where he ends up on 1st base because he miss judged something and did the stupid walk.
If you saw the whole interview with manny about it not being the end of the world, he was talking about how the team is relaxed and in his mispoken english it came out as he doesn't care. In my opinion he does care,more than many, but he also has the mentality of a 15 y.o. kid with his parents credit card and Benz - he is living large and knows it.
as for comparing Barry to Manny you are wrong, team mates love Manny for the ball player he is, yes of course they wish he would play hurt more but at least Manny shows passion... during one at bat you could hear him yell at a foul ball... the man work at his craft which on any other team would be hitting only but Papi is an 30 something year old man in a 50 something year old body. Barry is an evil Arse, Manny is a immature kid
I do think barry is an arse and manny is immature. The fact that manny does some unique things that could be considered childish has never bothered me. Hell sometimes I think its pretty funny. I guess I am just giving my perception of how he was in Cleveland, how he left Cleveland, and how he has been with Boston. My feelings were never hurt when he left even though I knew at the time he could go down as one of the greatest hitters of all time. I just don't think he ever fit into our program. I have always felt Cleveland is not about the money. If you play in Cleveland, your not getting paid as much as you would other places.
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 01:57 PM
I just don't think he ever fit into our program. I have always felt Cleveland is not about the money. If you play in Cleveland, your not getting paid as much as you would other places.wrong, you are paid, no player plays for less, or very few will. the difference is Cleveland will pay them until they are offered free agency or will sign them long term before so buying a couple years of free agency in return for a couple years at a controled cost.
but home town discount does not exist in any professional sport, it is a farce
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 02:31 PM
wrong, you are paid, no player plays for less, or very few will. the difference is Cleveland will pay them until they are offered free agency or will sign them long term before so buying a couple years of free agency in return for a couple years at a controled cost.
but home town discount does not exist in any professional sport, it is a farce
Wrong - your team has the second highest payroll and you buy players. You wouldn't know what raising players through a farm club does.
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 02:43 PM
Wrong - your team has the second highest payroll and you buy players. You wouldn't know what raising players through a farm club does.
Theo is building the farm again. Just you wait 2 or 3 years.
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 02:44 PM
Wrong - your team has the second highest payroll and you buy players. You wouldn't know what raising players through a farm club does.Wrong, don't tell me what I know, I been a fan a long time
Homegrown players
youk
Papelbon
Pedrioa
Elsbury
Buchholtz
Delcarmen
all played this season, Buchholts had a No-no and 5 of the 6 are on the playoff roster
the difference is the Sox traded their prospects for the players teams like your were going to lose to Free agency so players like Hanley Ramirez and others on big league roster allow the Sox to get players like Beckett and Lowell
so yes while some players are bought, having players like the ones I listed on the roster allows the Sox to sign Free agents and not rush minor league player to the majors
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Theo is building the farm again. Just you wait 2 or 3 years.
I thought they might be. They have not been involved in many trades the last 2 years and they have let some of the older veterans go.
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 02:48 PM
I would say that the only players on the Sox roster who play a significant role that were "bought" would be Ramirez, Schilling and Dice K. And by bought, i usually imagine that the player wouldnt have come here except for the exorbitant money. Just signing as a free agent , IMO, doesnt qualify as "bought" Julio Lugo wasnt bought, he just signed here. Manny was bought.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 02:49 PM
Wrong, don't tell me what I know, I been a fan a long time
Homegrown players
youk
Papelbon
Pedrioa
Elsbury
Buchholtz
Delcarmen
all played this season, Buchholts had a No-no and 5 of the 6 are on the playoff roster
the difference is the Sox traded their prospects for the players teams like your were going to lose to Free agency so players like Hanley Ramirez and others on big league roster allow the Sox to get players like Beckett and Lowell
so yes while some players are bought, having players like the ones I listed on the roster allows the Sox to sign Free agents and not rush minor league player to the majors
Wrong
You just named 6 out of the 27 players on your team. I am sure half of those players aren't even guys you drafted and had to put little development into. So in otherwords if you have been watching for as long as you say you have, then you would agree with me that the other 21 players are guys the Red Sox have bought because there in a bigger market?
Wrong have only 6 players on your team that are players that are brought up does not make a big enough difference in payroll that you can afford.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 02:52 PM
I would say that the only players on the Sox roster who play a significant role that were "bought" would be Ramirez, Schilling and Dice K. And by bought, i usually imagine that the player wouldnt have come here except for the exorbitant money. Just signing as a free agent , IMO, doesnt qualify as "bought" Julio Lugo wasnt bought, he just signed here. Manny was bought.
I maybe wrong, but wasn't Ortiz also? Coco was traded, but he was an up and coming star which he pretty much said he was going to be a red sox when his contract expired. Its kind of like trading for A-Rod - we all knew he would be a Yankee soon enough - and of course he did become one.
Baron Samedi
10-19-2007, 02:53 PM
I thought they might be. They have not been involved in many trades the last 2 years and they have let some of the older veterans go.
The Sox have one of the top ranked farm systems in the league, even after trading off Ramirez, Moss, Bard, and Gabbard, and whomever else I have forgotten.
So we traded all those players, and still managed to develop Ellsbury, Buchold, Manny Delcarmen, Lester,Pedroia, and Papelbon.
I'd say that's a pretty good farm system.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 02:58 PM
The Sox have one of the top ranked farm systems in the league, even after trading off Ramirez, Moss, Bard, and Gabbard, and whomever else I have forgotten.
So we traded all those players, and still managed to develop Ellsbury, Buchold, Manny Delcarmen, Lester,Pedroia, and Papelbon.
I'd say that's a pretty good farm system.
Who?
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Wrong
You just named 6 out of the 27 players on your team. I am sure half of those players aren't even guys you drafted and had to put little development into. So in otherwords if you have been watching for as long as you say you have, then you would agree with me that the other 21 players are guys the Red Sox have bought because there in a bigger market?
Wrong have only 6 players on your team that are players that are brought up does not make a big enough difference in payroll that you can afford.listen the roster is 25 guys not 27, so based on that your knowledge of baseball must be so limited it is futile to discuss this with you rationally
so much for your prediction of winning last night and CC bringing it
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 03:08 PM
Papi was given his unconditional rlease by the Twins and the only team interested was the Sox, hell he didn't ewven play the 1st 2 months baking up Lil Giambi and Millar at 1st/RF rotation
so no Papi was not bought he signed cheap because he had no where wlse to go
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 03:29 PM
Just off the top of my head, Current Cleveland Indians that were not drafted(or originally signed as Free Agents) by the Cleveland Indians: Paul Byrd, Jake Westbrook, Trot Nixon, Grady Sizemore, Kenny Lofton, Raphael Betancourt, Joe Borowski, Josh Barfield, Kelly Shoppach, Casey Blake, Chris Gomez....
and a couple more i looked up....Asdrubel Cabrera, Tom Mastney, Aaron Fultz, Jason Micheals, Travis Hafner, Franklin Guttierez.
17.
25-17 = 8.
The sox have 6 (Pedroia, Yooks, Ellsbury, DelCarmen, Lester, Papelbon)
Eight if you count Dice K and Okijima, which i wouldnt, but the case could be made.
Seems that both teams are about equally "homegrown"
babalu87
10-19-2007, 03:36 PM
Cleveland Rox, when a team trades a player/players that they developed for another player/players that is also improving the team through the farm system.
Anabel Sanchez and Hanley Ramirez for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell are one example. The Red Sox have the advantage of higher revenues to SIGN the players, anyone in MLB could have had Beckett and Lowell, the Red Sox had enough in the farm system to make the trade and not sell out their future.
They get a Gold glove 3rd baseman and a STUD #1 starting pitcher who is LIGHTS OUT in October for their farm raised talent.
Dont you have to clean your room or snap peas?
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:25 PM
listen the roster is 25 guys not 27, so based on that your knowledge of baseball must be so limited it is futile to discuss this with you rationally
so much for your prediction of winning last night and CC bringing it
WRONG - I counted the guys on IR as they still are a part of your team if you decide to bring them in.
WRONG - your the most irrationaly preson I have ever encountered on any forum. Not to mention the most ignorant.:smiley_towel:
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 04:31 PM
WRONG - I counted the guys on IR as they still are a part of your team if you decide to bring them in.
WRONG - your the most irrationaly preson I have ever encountered on any forum. Not to mention the most ignorant.:smiley_towel: thank you, coming from you that is a wonderful thing
then go to the full 40 man roster
what about only 8 home grown Indians? any comment on that?
of course not, you will just go back to insults... the same thing you asked others not to do
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 04:35 PM
thank you, coming from you that is a wonderful thing
then go to the full 40 man roster
what about only 8 home grown Indians? any comment on that
I didnt mean to interrupt your argument with facts. I sincerely apologize :)
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 04:37 PM
I didnt mean to interrupt your argument with facts. I sincerely apologize :)
slow day, I am finished with a bunch of work and the estimate calls for me to be busy all day so I play
3 Point Stan
10-19-2007, 04:38 PM
I can't believe someone just called Mikiemo (probably the most even-kealed dude I've ever encountered on a message board) irrational.
:rofl:
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:39 PM
Just off the top of my head, Current Cleveland Indians that were not drafted(or originally signed as Free Agents) by the Cleveland Indians: Paul Byrd, Jake Westbrook, Trot Nixon, Grady Sizemore, Kenny Lofton, Raphael Betancourt, Joe Borowski, Josh Barfield, Kelly Shoppach, Casey Blake, Chris Gomez....
and a couple more i looked up....Asdrubel Cabrera, Tom Mastney, Aaron Fultz, Jason Micheals, Travis Hafner, Franklin Guttierez.
17.
25-17 = 8.
The sox have 6 (Pedroia, Yooks, Ellsbury, DelCarmen, Lester, Papelbon)
Eight if you count Dice K and Okijima, which i wouldnt, but the case could be made.
Seems that both teams are about equally "homegrown"
Paul Bird was an Indian originally. If you watched the game on Tuesday you would have known that as the commentators pointed out that he was in the organization. The point I am trying to make which your not accepting is how many of those players have we signed and not raised ourself's. How many players have you signed that were already prepared and ready to go? Your team buys players. Do not get defenseful. You are no different than the Yankees.
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 04:41 PM
Bird was signed as a free agent this time so he may have been drafted and Indian but he was raised else where
I typed this slow so you could read it there are only a 2 players difference between the two clubs on the 25 man playoff roster that were not home grown and one could argue, like SC pointed out, that DiceK and Oki are actually home grown because this is their 1st year in the MLB system
defenseful? defensive is the word you want
difference between the red sox and Yankees, we are still playing
3 Point Stan
10-19-2007, 04:42 PM
Do not get defenseful. You
First off, it's defensive.
You are no different then the Yankees.
Secondly, saying stuff like this will almost always put a Sox fan on the defensive.
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 04:46 PM
Well i'll be goddamned. Youre right. Paul Byrd WAS drafted by the Indians. That just blows my whole post right out of the water. :rolleyes:
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:47 PM
I can't believe someone just called Mikiemo (probably the most even-kealed dude I've ever encountered on a message board) irrational.
:rofl:
Apparently you haven't read any of his post especially on pats planet. I think he is tarded.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:48 PM
First off, it's defensive.
Secondly, saying stuff like this will almost always put a Sox fan on the defensive.
congrads, you caught my error. You are the most intelligent person I have ever met. Go **** your mom
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Paul Bird was an Indian originally. If you watched the game on Tuesday you would have known that as the commentators pointed out that he was in the organization. The point I am trying to make which your not accepting is how many of those players have we signed and not raised ourself's. How many players have you signed that were already prepared and ready to go? Your team buys players. Do not get defenseful. You are no different than the Yankees.
And if you had watched the game, or were actually a fan of the team, you would probably know its spelled Byrd. And you arent trying to make any points. Youre just flinging sh*t against the wall trying to piss off as many people as you can.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:50 PM
Well i'll be goddamned. Youre right. Paul Byrd WAS drafted by the Indians. That just blows my whole post right out of the water. :rolleyes:
With all things considering, your just another poster who doesn't provide any links that argue a point that I knew off of the top of my head - (or like you said off the top of yours) that you were simply wrong. Post some links of where these players were trained and raised at and then we will continue to argue why you are wrong.
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 04:50 PM
CR, A bit of advice that will allow you to remain around, we DO NOT make fun of handicap people around here. poke fun all you want at me but that is a subject I DO NOT tolorate an ass like you attacking. Make fun of me I can take it, hell I do it more than you ever could but do not use that term again
we clear?
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Go **** your mom
Nice one. Now tell him that youre rubber and he's glue.
3 Point Stan
10-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Apparently you haven't read any of his post especially on pats planet. I think he is tarded.
I don't read many of your posts any longer, friend. You seem to like to get into pissing matches and I think opposing fans who do that lose a lot of their credibility.
Now if you went over to PP and took a gander of the general population, you'd notice that there's a great abundance of opposing fans who choose to go there everyday and are a welcomed part of the general community. To date, I've seen no such effort on your part. This can be a fun place if you choose to participate in friendly banter. I'll leave that to you.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 04:57 PM
CR, A bit of advice that will allow you to remain around, we DO NOT make fun of handicap people around here. poke fun all you want at me but that is a subject I DO NOT tolorate an ass like you attacking. Make fun of me I can take it, hell I do it more than you ever could but do not use that term again
we clear?
I really don't care if I get booted or not. To be honest I have been so bored this week at work that I have just got great satisfaction on how you get pissed off and tell me I am WRONG. It really is funny seeing how ......... you are. I will make fun of any person on want. It is you and the rest of society that gave them that title.
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 04:58 PM
I really don't care if I get booted or not. To be honest I have been so bored this week at work that I have just got great satisfaction on how you get pissed off and tell me I am WRONG. It really is funny seeing how ........ you are. I will make fun of any person on want. It is you and the rest of society that gave them that title.see I don't get pissed, that is your mistake, I used too, man I was good at that but trolls like you I find funny
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 05:09 PM
With all things considering, your just another poster who doesn't provide any links that argue a point that I knew off of the top of my head - (or like you said off the top of yours) that you were simply wrong. Post some links of where these players were trained and raised at and then we will continue to argue why you are wrong.
I was wrong? All i did was look up how each player on the Indians playoff roster was originally signed on Baseball Reference. Those are called facts. You keep spouting off about how the Indians are so much more "homegrown" than the RedSox. I tend to disagree. There are just as many players on the RedSox playoff roster that have spent their entire professional baseball careers with the RedSox as are Indians who have done the same. You want to argue who "developed" the other players more? Go ahead. Show me how Grady Sizemore was developed "more" by the Indians than the Expos.
Nevermind i'll do it for you.
Grady Sizemore played in by my count 23 more minor league games for Indians minor league affiliates than Expos. Of course he was already enough of a prospect to be the lynchpin in the Bartolo Colon trade by the time he got traded. So who did the most developing here? The Indians? Prove it. I say that by the time the Indians acquired mr Sizemore that he was already on the fast track to the majors, and the trade only changed his final destination city. The Indians developed him "more" than the Expos? I say bullshit.
I almost forgot, since it doesnt count if i dont include a link, here is one
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=13580
fightingdoxies
10-19-2007, 05:11 PM
see I don't get pissed, that is your mistake, I used too, man I was good at that but trolls like you I find funny
Well like my dad always told me... better to be pissed off than pissed on
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Damn how does it take him so long to take the exact same post, change three or four words and post it again?
Mikiemo83
10-19-2007, 05:44 PM
Damn how does it take him so long to take the exact same post, change three or four words and post it again?I think he is putting together his War and Peace Post, a post of such magnitude it will take him a very long time to post
you suck
3 Point Stan
10-19-2007, 05:50 PM
What I want to know is if all those towels being waved around Cleveland are 100% Egyptian cotton or perhaps a blend of rayon and polyester. These are the kinds of things that keep me up at night.
Cleveland Rox
10-19-2007, 06:07 PM
Mikiemod edit * I thought we agreed to discuss this without resorting to insults * too bad you couldn't
Good bye and go Tribe.
Tribe in 6
3 Point Stan
10-19-2007, 06:14 PM
Take care of yourself Cleveland Rox. Edgar Renteria says, "hi!"
southcarolina
10-19-2007, 10:29 PM
w00t!!!!
A Banning!!!!!A Banning!!!!
TITAN126
10-20-2007, 02:40 AM
Our first legitimate banning! Let the celebration begin! :party:
BigChowdah
10-21-2007, 09:47 PM
I think what this guy meant to say is "Cleveland Sux" and maybe they would have a shot at the series if they had some players with one, tenth the ability of Manny Ramirez. I don't know for sure though, I know he seems to have registered for the wrong forum though since this is the Red Sox forum. (I think, maybe I am in the Cleveland forum) Nope I just checked he is in the wrong forum and probably should be pointed in the right direction.
-BigChowdah
cleveland rocks again
10-22-2007, 12:40 AM
I love it how you ban someone for telling the truth Mike. Even though banning mean nothing as I can come back as much as I want. It is impossible to block someones IP Address in this day.
Just shows your IQ.
:smiley_towel:
southcarolina
10-22-2007, 05:26 AM
I love it how you ban someone for telling the truth Mike. Even though banning mean nothing as I can come back as much as I want. It is impossible to block someones IP Address in this day.
Just shows your IQ.
:smiley_towel:
You still lost. Have fun pulling for the Rockies.
SamBam39
10-22-2007, 10:33 AM
He will probably be gone now unless he is a Rockies fan too! Nothing to see here now. Move along.
Mikiemo83
10-22-2007, 12:53 PM
yeah, typical troll, talks a big game but what happens when teams play those Boston/New England teams? They Lose - hell even the Bruins would be kicking the old Cleveland Barons Asses if they didn't fold do to poor fan base, similar to when the Browns moved to Baltimore and not wanting to take the name with them
cleveland rocks again
10-22-2007, 01:03 PM
He will probably be gone now unless he is a Rockies fan too! Nothing to see here now. Move along.
I was a closet Rockie fan since they were the biggest under dog in this whole series. It didn't matter who the American League team was as long as it wasn't the Indians - I normally go with the Cubs if they get in, but I was just a little bit more excited about the Rockies and there young talent along with Todd Helton - for whom I have really like since ESPN ran a make the wish with him (I believe they did Kobe, ect.)
Congrads on your win. We beat ourselves by costly base running and bad pitching late. (even though it should have been tied 3-3. By calling Kenny out at 2nd, it definitely did cost us a run which would have tied it up.)
3 Point Stan
10-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Did anyone notice after the game, Chris Myers was interviewing Manny and asking questions about the play in which Manny's assist nailed Lofton at 2B? Myers is asking him questions about that play but Manny is replying, but describing the pop-up play in which Lugo dropped the ball. Myers would then ask more follow-ups, to which Manny would follow-up as well - but about the pop-up, not the assist. It was so typically Manny. I was on the floor.
bideau
10-22-2007, 04:21 PM
Manny's mom and wife at last night's game...
Mikiemo83
10-22-2007, 04:24 PM
Manny's mom and wife at last night's game...think she could tell him to get a haircut?
bideau
10-22-2007, 04:28 PM
think she could tell him to get a haircut?
Like father, like son
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