We may get stuck with WiMP

[Baron Samedi]

From the Sportsline rumor mill....

Teams will be checking out Jon Lester although the Sox have said they are not shopping him, as reported by the Boston Herald. The report also suggests the club is speaking with teams about outfielder Wily Mo Pena, but no deal is close, and they do have some interest in Oakland outfielder Bobby Kielty.

no interest in Wily Mo, imagine that. Can't see why...he'd make a great defensive replacement for someone.....

[Mikiemo83]

From the Sportsline rumor mill....
no interest in Wily Mo, imagine that. Can't see why...he'd make a great defensive replacement for someone.....
Jose Canseco maybe but that is open for debate

[3 Point Stan]

From the Sportsline rumor mill....
...Bobby Kielty.


Keitly was just DFA'd. So he'll be on the move regardless. Certainly not a sexy acquisition (and that's not a pun at the expense of his Carrot Top-like features either) but I would expect the Sox to have at least some interest.

[BossHogg30]

I would rather keep Pena.

Why isn't Hinske in any trade talks. Plus, someone has to be interested in Tavares too right?

[Baron Samedi]

Jose Canseco maybe but that is open for debate

Having seen both play....I can say, in complete honesty....with a straight face......Canseco was better than Wily Mo defensively.

[Baron Samedi]

I would rather keep Pena.

Why isn't Hinske in any trade talks. Plus, someone has to be interested in Tavares too right?

WTF?:blink: Would you want to trade to acquire Hinske or Tavarez? Exactly what sort of players would you trade to get these guys?

"Look, you give me Joe Superstar...and I'll give you these two piles of dog shite I have here in newspaper...what a deal, eh?"

[3 Point Stan]

Not advocating the trading of WMP for Kielty. Kielty's already been DFA'd so in 10 days, he's gone regardless. But the A's will try to get something for him (ice cream cake?).

I am sure WMP is being shopped as a cog in a far more important acquisition i(f one were to be made that is). Should that deal be pitching, I am sure the Sox will want to have examined ALL opportunities - and that includes looking into the availability of ALL players.

[BossHogg30]

WTF?:blink: Would you want to trade to acquire Hinske or Tavarez? Exactly what sort of players would you trade to get these guys?

"Look, you give me Joe Superstar...and I'll give you these two piles of dog shite I have here in newspaper...what a deal, eh?"

Have you read the trade rumors? Seems like everyone wants to give us crap for Pena and whoever else is in trade rumors. That is why I said in my post, I would rather keep Pena. I also stated I am surprised no one is interested in Tavares or Hinske. I agree we won't get anyone good for them, but I don't know if teams are looking to trade away "Joe Superstar" they are more or less looking for either prospects or another role player at this point to help their team. Not to many blockbuster trades to talk about right now.

Maybe Hinske, Tavaras, Pena, for Jack Wilson and Solomon Torres. These are the types of trades we are looking at...Again, Nothing too exciting.

[luso2kx]

Hinske won't be dealt for 2 reasons:

1) He's making almost $6million this season. No team wants to touch that unless it's a waiver pickup (which forces the Sox to pay the rest).

2) His numbers have been mediocre all season. However, he has been picking it up recently. He's the kind of bat off the bench we could use if productive.

[Baron Samedi]

Have you read the trade rumors? Seems like everyone wants to give us crap for Pena and whoever else is in trade rumors. That is why I said in my post, I would rather keep Pena. I also stated I am surprised no one is interested in Tavares or Hinske. I agree we won't get anyone good for them, but I don't know if teams are looking to trade away "Joe Superstar" they are more or less looking for either prospects or another role player at this point to help their team. Not to many blockbuster trades to talk about right now.

Maybe Hinske, Tavaras, Pena, for Jack Wilson and Solomon Torres. These are the types of trades we are looking at...Again, Nothing too exciting.

Hmmm, I still see some kind of WiMP packaged with a Gabbard or Lester (I hope not Lester), and maybe a minor leaguer like Murphy for a player or two. I think the Sox need to move Wily to make room for their corps of young future OF's they have in the minors...I think those guys are just about ready to come up, and Wily kind of creates a bottleneck at that 4th OF position.

[BossHogg30]

Hmmm, I still see some kind of WiMP packaged with a Gabbard or Lester (I hope not Lester), and maybe a minor leaguer like Murphy for a player or two. I think the Sox need to move Wily to make room for their corps of young future OF's they have in the minors...I think those guys are just about ready to come up, and Wily kind of creates a bottleneck at that 4th OF position.

Who do you have in mind in return for these players from Boston? I would be interested in a list of players you would like to see traded vs that of players you would love to keep at almost all cost.

[Baron Samedi]

Who do you have in mind in return for these players from Boston? I would be interested in a list of players you would like to see traded vs that of players you would love to keep at almost all cost.

I don't have specific players in mind, but I would like to see them get a quality catcher, in the event Tek goes down, and a player that would be a utility infielder that could backup Lugo and/or Pedroia, maybe take over for Lowell next year, and at least one of those guys would have to provide a consistent bat off of the bench, moreso that Wily or Hinske have provided.

I think moving Wily solves the backup OF problem, and bringing up Ellsbury gives you a good pinch runner, a solid OF to give guys a day off, and a good late inning defensive replacement. Even Moss can probably provide as good a bat as Pena, if required.

Anyway, the Sox are loaded with talent but the position players are thin when it comes to depth....I think the Sox have pitching to spare with more on the way, so now is the time to cash in, maybe even get a catcher for the future to replace V-tek.

Anyway, that's would be my shopping list if I'm the Sox.

[BossHogg30]

I don't have specific players in mind, but I would like to see them get a quality catcher, in the event Tek goes down, and a player that would be a utility infielder that could backup Lugo and/or Pedroia, maybe take over for Lowell next year, and at least one of those guys would have to provide a consistent bat off of the bench, moreso that Wily or Hinske have provided.

I think moving Wily solves the backup OF problem, and bringing up Ellsbury gives you a good pinch runner, a solid OF to give guys a day off, and a good late inning defensive replacement. Even Moss can probably provide as good a bat as Pena, if required.

Anyway, the Sox are loaded with talent but the position players are thin when it comes to depth....I think the Sox have pitching to spare with more on the way, so now is the time to cash in, maybe even get a catcher for the future to replace V-tek.

Anyway, that's would be my shopping list if I'm the Sox.

Does anyone know what catchers out there might be available?

[Baron Samedi]

I hope there are some catchers available, cause I have minimal confidence taht V-tek will stay healthy the whole way, and I am scared to death of having Mirabelli be the starter again, or having to grab some suck cathcer like we did last year.

[BossHogg30]

I know we have some really good prospect already in our farm team that might fill the voids you describe. Don't dismiss Jeb Lowrie. He is awesome! Plus we have guys like Mark Wagner and Tyler Weeden who might just jump in and surprise people a year or two down the road.

[BossHogg30]

I hope there are some catchers available, cause I have minimal confidence taht V-tek will stay healthy the whole way, and I am scared to death of having Mirabelli be the starter again, or having to grab some suck cathcer like we did last year.

I think I've seen rumors that the Chicago Cubs would be willing to trade Michael Barrett.

[BossHogg30]

We all know that the Twins are really interested in Mike Lowell. We should trade them and get Mike Redman. He is a very under-rated catcher and would really help our team. We could still move Youk over to 3rd base but would be forced to play Hinske more at 1st base.

[Mikiemo83]

We all know that the Twins are really interested in Mike Lowell. We should trade them and get Mike Redman. He is a very under-rated catcher and would really help our team. We could still move Youk over to 3rd base but would be forced to play Hinske more at 1st base.I rather get Saltwhateveritis from Atlanta, who may cost more but appears to be a future stud

[Baron Samedi]

We all know that the Twins are really interested in Mike Lowell. We should trade them and get Mike Redman. He is a very under-rated catcher and would really help our team. We could still move Youk over to 3rd base but would be forced to play Hinske more at 1st base.
Wasn't he a QB for the Ravens a couple years ago?:confused: :icon_kidr

[BossHogg30]

Wasn't he a QB for the Ravens a couple years ago?:confused: :icon_kidr

spelled wrong....sorry, meant Mike Redmond

[BossHogg30]

I say we trade the Twins

OF Wily Mo Pena
3B Mike Lowell
P Kason Gabbard

for

OF Jason Kubel
C Mike Redmond
1B Garrett Jones

[Baron Samedi]

I say we trade the Twins

OF Wily Mo Pena
3B Mike Lowell
P Kason Gabbard

for

OF Jason Kubel
C Mike Redmond
1B Garrett Jones

Is this Jason Kubel supposed to be good? i am pretty much strictly a Sox fan and don't follow other teams much. I only ask in reference to comparing him to what we already have in pawtucket.

[BossHogg30]

Is this Jason Kubel supposed to be good? i am pretty much strictly a Sox fan and don't follow other teams much. I only ask in reference to comparing him to what we already have in pawtucket.

I like him. Doesn't play every day so his stats are misleading, but he plays good defense and has shown to be a clutch hitter for the Twins. Problem is he seems to be in Garderhire's dog house as of late. Gardenhire is forced to play him though because of and injury to his star player. He reminds me of Trot Nixon

[EverettsTheoryOfEvolution]

Where, in this proposed deal, is the ice cream cake, without which it is not a deal at all?

[BossHogg30]

Found this interesting article on guys available from the Rangers

Kenny LoftonOdds of being traded: 1-2

Lofton is a proven hitter and lead-off man who could help a contender. He has been productive this season, entering the week hitting .301 and leading the team with 21 stolen bases. But at 40, he doesn't fit in the Rangers' future plans.

Mark TeixeiraOdds of being traded: 3-2

With almost no chance of keeping him after 2008, the only way the Rangers won't trade him now is if they have to wait until the off-season for a deal they like. The Angels, Braves, Dodgers and Red Sox are believed to be in the mix.

Akinori OtsukaOdds of being traded: 3-1

At 35, Otsuka is a quick fix for a team in need of bullpen help. But will a recent elbow injury, even though it's not considered serious, scare off potential buyers? PHOTOS: Star-Telegram

Who are the long shots to be traded? See 6D.

THE LONG SHOTS

While Kenny Lofton, Mark Teixeira and Akinori Otsuka are the Rangers most likely to be traded before the July 31 deadline, here are others with less of a chance of being dealt:

Ron Mahay

Odds of being traded: 9-2

Sure, somebody would want a lefty reliever with a 2.15 ERA, but Mahay is a free agent after this season.

Joaquin Benoit

Odds of being traded: 6-1

He has been too valuable to a stout Texas relief corps to give him up for nothing. He's also likely to be coveted in this trade market.

Eric Gagné

Odds of being traded: 8-1

He has lived up to his "Game Over" reputation after returning from injury-induced purgatory. Gagné wants to stay here, and the Rangers will need an elite closer if they hope to contend in the near future. Could a contract extension be brewing?

Brad Wilkerson

Odds of being traded: 10-1

He's hitting only .229, though he does share the team lead with 15 home runs. A buyer would have to stomach paying part of his $4.35 million salary this year, but he'd be a rental anyway, as Wilkerson will be a free agent after the season.

Jamey Wright

Odds of being traded: 25-1

Interest seems muted despite his 4.15 ERA, the best among Rangers' starters. Is he too unpredictable?

Sammy Sosa

Odds of being traded: 25-1

Sosa will stay at DH unless he retires or his struggles magnify. Benching or releasing a player of Sosa's stature would be a last resort.

[BossHogg30]

With less than a week to go until the trade deadline, it's looking more and more as though Mark Teixeira's days as a Ranger are numbered in single digits.
According to multiple Major League sources, trade talks centering on the Texas first baseman have intensified in the last 24 hours.

Though six teams -- the Atlanta Braves, Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees and San Francisco Giants -- were among the clubs most active in their pursuit of Teixeira, as of midday on Tuesday, is appears that the Yankees and the three California teams, while not completely dropping out of the picture, are not in the forefront, either.

The Dodgers appear to have turned their focus on pitching. The Yankees are interested, but have been unwilling to part with their best young pitchers. The Giants have also stepped back after considering the price for Teixeira. And the Angels, after shipping right-hander Ervin Santana to the Minor Leagues, do not appear to be a trade match with the Rangers.

The Red Sox have been holding on to their young pitchers, but with the Yankees gaining ground in the American League East, the winning return of Jon Lester on Monday night and the expected return of Curt Schilling next week, they may be in a better position to part with some arms.

The Rangers have scouted a number of Boston's Major League and Minor League pitchers recently, including Lester, left-hander Kason Gabbard, Triple-A right-hander Clay Buchholz and Double-A right-hander Michael Bowden.

The Braves are balking at requests for catcher/first baseman Jarrod Saltalamacchia or shortstop Yunel Escobar. In any case, the Rangers are more likely to want Major League-ready pitching in any deal for Teixeira.

That might seem to make the Red Sox the front runners to land Teixeira, but with just days to go, predicting Teixeira's destination is a dicey proposition.

"Boston could have pulled the trigger already, but they haven't," said one source. "They could decide to go with what they've got."

[BossHogg30]

I am ok with all the names mentioned that we may trade except Clay Buchholz. Losing Lester or Bowden would be tough too, but I could handle it. I wouldn't really care if we lost Gabbard.

[3 Point Stan]

Well today was a good day. I still haven't gotten any calls with job offers from the Sox FO. Anyone get a call like that?

Anyone? Beuller... Beuller...

[TITAN126]

I say we trade the Twins

OF Wily Mo Pena
3B Mike Lowell
P Kason Gabbard

for

OF Jason Kubel
C Mike Redmond
1B Garrett Jones

No way! :blink: :icon_toil

[SteelerFan87]

Maybe Hinske, Tavaras, Pena, for Jack Wilson and Solomon Torres. These are the types of trades we are looking at...Again, Nothing too exciting.

I might take that. It would probably depend on how good Hinske is/can be, but at the very least, it would be nice to have Tavarez back, and he could make up for the loss of Torres. As for Pena, from what you guys have said, I'm guessing he's kind of like a Craig Wilson, only perhaps less versatile?

[Redsoxfan57]

I would rather keep Pena.

Why isn't Hinske in any trade talks. Plus, someone has to be interested in Tavares too right?

Well there goes my adopt a Sox for the year. Cie la Vie.

[3 Point Stan]

Who says Hinske isn't involved in any trade talks? I would bet that Theo throws his name out there in almost ANY trade discussion he engages in. Why don't we hear about it? Because who the HELL would trade anything of value for Eric Hinske? He's done nothing but decline since his ROTY campaign so why would another GM give up anything for him? Especially considering that if the Sox do acquire a legit 4th OF before September, Hinske's apt to be DFA'd anyway.

Woody Woodward and Steve Phillips are no longer GM's in this league so don't look for Eric Hinske to be on the moved to another club anytime soon unless it's via the waiver wire.

[Mikiemo83]

In yesterdays Globe, Gordon Edes I believe interviewed Mike Easler, who was Wily Mo's hitting coach his 1st two levels of the minors and claims Wily Mo is all our of sync with his swing (looking for a job?) and that wily can hit the change up just needs the time to play every day to get into rhythm


but he will be traded