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luso2kx
07-18-2007, 11:29 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=1690

Asked by the Boston media, Reggie Sanders said Tuesday that he'd welcome a trade to the Red Sox.

"It's a great group of guys over there," Sanders said. "I have never played there, but I have felt like I have just because of the way they embrace everybody. Boston is a great place, it really is. How can you not like it?" Trading for Sanders seems unlikely unless the Red Sox part with Wily Mo Pena, but the Royals are clearly shopping him around.
Source: Boston Herald (http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=1012000)
Related: Red Sox (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_relatednews.aspx?sport=MLB&majteam=BOS)

They make it sound like dealing WMP would not be what the Sox would want to do.

Make it happen Theo. Make Sanders happy, and us Sox fans happy too.

fightingdoxies
07-19-2007, 01:18 PM
Trading for Sanders seems unlikely unless the Red Sox part with Wily Mo Pena, but the Royals are clearly shopping him around.

Huh??? Unless the Sox part with WMP????? Thats it???? and this deal isnt done why???? I dunno, right now i'm will to part with WMP for a Big Mac and fries.

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 01:55 PM
wily mo is arbitration elligible and the sox will not tender him and offer like Minny did with Ortiz so why trade for him for 3 months when you can sign him in the fall

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 02:25 PM
wily mo is arbitration elligible and the sox will not tender him and offer like Minny did with Ortiz so why trade for him for 3 months when you can sign him in the fallYou make it sound like Wily Mo could actually be useful for us.

kgsmith
07-19-2007, 02:34 PM
let me ask a question regarding WMP.. ok.. yes, he is sucking at the plate right now, and his defense isnt all that good..but why are we so down on him. it is quite obvious that the guy has monster talent. so you are willing to give him up for a 39 year old outfielder? Maybe its just me, but I would resign WMP and get him some more playing time, and some more practice and what do you know? you got a guy that can play. I love how someone has a bad year, and all of a sudden, its time to get rid of him.. Boston was stoked when we go him in the trade for arroyo.. hmmm.. how things change..

oldskool138
07-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Boston was stoked when we go him in the trade for arroyo.. hmmm.. how things change..

Ummm, by "Boston" do you mean the Boston Red Sox front office or Red Sox fans?

I recall a lot of people calling the Arroyo trade dumb because Bronson is a solid #4 pitcher with a rubber arm who can play (and loved to play) in the spotlight of Boston...who also signed a club-friendly contract and was promptly traded away before the ink was dry.

I went to a Reds/Red Sox game a while back when Wily Mo was with Cincy. He ended up letting a long fly ball glance off his glove and go into the stands for a HR.

I never liked this trade...Ever. None of my Red Sox fan friends thought it was a good trade either. What they did to Arroyo was cheap. I'm almost glad this Wily Mo Cerrano thing blew up in Theo's face.

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 02:47 PM
let me ask a question regarding WMP.. ok.. yes, he is sucking at the plate right now, and his defense isnt all that good..but why are we so down on him. it is quite obvious that the guy has monster talent. so you are willing to give him up for a 39 year old outfielder? Maybe its just me, but I would resign WMP and get him some more playing time, and some more practice and what do you know? you got a guy that can play. I love how someone has a bad year, and all of a sudden, its time to get rid of him.. Boston was stoked when we go him in the trade for arroyo.. hmmm.. how things change..
When can we stop thinking about WMP's "talent" and start realizing that he has NOT sustained any progress his entire career? He went from hitting .301 with an .838 OPS and decent CF skills last year, to hitting .210 (91 points less) with a .642 OPS(196 points less) and being a defensive joke this year.

So again, WHY should we keep him other than "he has raw talent"? The only way he improves is with alot more playing time than the Sox will ever give him. He's a failed project here. Deal him.

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 03:07 PM
You make it sound like Wily Mo could actually be useful for us.no just saying why buy the milk when the cow is walking out the gate for free

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 06:36 PM
no just saying why buy the milk when the cow is walking out the gate for freeAnd here I was thinking that Sanders would actually be a nice upgrade off the bench who wouldn't cause Sox fans to convulse when he's at the plate or, much less, on the field.

EverettsTheoryOfEvolution
07-19-2007, 06:37 PM
I like WMP, and think he does have talent & potential, but not for us. The Sox don't have the right situation to get him enough playing time and let him develop the way he needs to. He has potential, but it's wasted here.

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 06:46 PM
And here I was thinking that Sanders would actually be a nice upgrade off the bench who wouldn't cause Sox fans to convulse when he's at the plate or, much less, on the field.
he would be but I doubt for WilyMo, I would assume a player who they could control for a stretch would be the preference - Wily Mo makes too much

oldskool138
07-19-2007, 06:50 PM
he would be but I doubt for WilyMo, I would assume a player who they could control for a stretch would be the preference - Wily Mo makes too much

Makes too much...strikeouts? fielding errors?

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 06:52 PM
he would be but I doubt for WilyMo, I would assume a player who they could control for a stretch would be the preference - Wily Mo makes too muchWilly Mo makes a close to $2million. It's not an amount KC can't handle.

And ETOE made the point I was trying to stress. WMP is worthless here because he needs ample playing time to develop into the play he should be. He will NEVER get that kind of playing time here. That means we have a wasted roster spot.

That said, Sanders is the kind of guy that could help us out as a 4th OF and offensive bat off the bench for the stretch run. This solves the WMP issue and gives us the bench guy we need this season.

This is, quite possibly, the best we will ever be able to get for WMP in a trade. It's surprising KC actually wants him in the first place. I thought Baird no longer worked for them.

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 06:55 PM
wilymo makes 2 million this year, what next season? that is my point, he is arbitration elligible and could cost them 3 or 4 million the way things go, the thing is no one knows so why would Kc give up Sanders for a player you may have for only 3 month when you could get a Moss/Murphy and control them for 6 years

southcarolina
07-19-2007, 06:58 PM
I see that Sanders has only played in 18 games this season. Has he been hurt? Do the Royals have a surplus of OFers?

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 07:04 PM
got off the 60 day dl this week - leg injury I believe

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 07:08 PM
wilymo makes 2 million this year, what next season? that is my point, he is arbitration elligible and could cost them 3 or 4 million the way things go, the thing is no one knows so why would Kc give up Sanders for a player you may have for only 3 month when you could get a Moss/Murphy and control them for 6 years3-4 million is still enough for KC to handle. How much did they pay for that glorified 4th starter, Gil Meche?

You deal WMP for Sanders now, he's here for 3 months, then we have an open space for Godsbury next year. The logic really isn't that flawed.

southcarolina
07-19-2007, 07:11 PM
It isnt that they couldnt handle 3-4 million, its why would they want to when they could just demand Murphy or Moss ( or some other prospect) and control the player for 6 years, and wipe away the entire 5 million of Sanders contract. The Royals dont need a 3-4 million dollar project. They need good cheap young players to build their franchise back up, and they want to be rid of Sanders contract and his hurt leg. There will be more of a market for Sanders than just Boston, and the Royals arent going to take who we want them too just because we say so.

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 07:22 PM
It isnt that they couldnt handle 3-4 million, its why would they want to when they could just demand Murphy or Moss ( or some other prospect) and control the player for 6 years, and wipe away the entire 5 million of Sanders contract. The Royals dont need a 3-4 million dollar project. They need good cheap young players to build their franchise back up, and they want to be rid of Sanders contract and his hurt leg. There will be more of a market for Sanders than just Boston, and the Royals arent going to take who we want them too just because we say so.Per Rotoworld, it was the Royals who want WMP in return for Sanders. In which case, I wonder why this deal hasn't been done already.

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 07:27 PM
3-4 million is still enough for KC to handle. How much did they pay for that glorified 4th starter, Gil Meche?

You deal WMP for Sanders now, he's here for 3 months, then we have an open space for Godsbury next year. The logic really isn't that flawed.Meche was an All-Star correct?


you make it sound like KC is in love with WilyMo, do you have any information to show this or is this a I'll give you our Shit who we may release soon for your old guy who will help us type of deal

***see the roto world comment

EverettsTheoryOfEvolution
07-19-2007, 07:43 PM
Can't hurt to try - if KC is interested in WMP. We don't care what their rationale is, if they find a better deal elsewhere, fine, back to square 1, but we don't lose anything for it. It's not unheard of for such a team to make a poor trading decisions, especially if someone in the organization has decided that someone is "their guy."

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 08:37 PM
Meche was an All-Star correct?


you make it sound like KC is in love with WilyMo, do you have any information to show this or is this a I'll give you our Shit who we may release soon for your old guy who will help us type of deal

***see the roto world comment
Rotoworld did get the initial news from the Herald, they speculated that, to get Sanders, it would take WMP, and said so as if the Sox wouldn't deal wily Mo for some bizarre reason.

As for "old shit", Sanders this season has been fairly good.

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=NHLsubheadingStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000572" noWrap colSpan=18>Current Season Stats</TD></TR><TR class=bsubcontentStats style="COLOR: #ffffff; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #8e8d8c"><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=tro><TD>18 </TD><TD>53</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>7 </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.377 </TD><TD>.450</TD><TD>.623</TD><TD>1.073</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Those are numbers WMP isn't putting up, and Sanders does know how to play outfield without chasing after a ball that bounced off a wall.

If the report is true, and KC DOES want WMP in return, then why even think twice about it? MAKE THE DEAL!

Mikiemo83
07-19-2007, 08:42 PM
Theo thinks WMP is the next DO

luso2kx
07-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Theo thinks WMP is the next DOCan someone please slap some sense into Theo?

EverettsTheoryOfEvolution
07-19-2007, 09:39 PM
We already have a DO.

3 Point Stan
07-19-2007, 10:33 PM
I've always liked Reggie Sanders and there were a few years back at the start of the "Reggie Sanders: Gypsy Tour" that I was hoping the Sox would bring him in as a 3rd or 4th OF.

I'd love to have him in that role still as I think he can be more productive than WMP or Hinske but I think the Sox are looking for more of a Dave Roberts (i.e., decent OF play, can pinch-run, etc) guy. Sanders is coming off a bad injury so he's not a guy you're going to call on in on a pinch-running situation.

Not saying he has no shot to be a Red Sox, just don't think he's Theo's 1st choice.

SamBam39
07-19-2007, 10:48 PM
Theo thinks WMP is the next DOThe DO of 2006 or the DO of 2007?:confused:

SteelerFan87
07-20-2007, 04:28 AM
When can we stop thinking about WMP's "talent" and start realizing that he has NOT sustained any progress his entire career?

Well, if those are the qualifications Theo is looking for, I'd be happy to give him Jose Castillo! Great, yet totally untapped power, spectacular defense along with insane mental lapses... what do you say Theo?

luso2kx
07-20-2007, 10:43 AM
Well, if those are the qualifications Theo is looking for, I'd be happy to give him Jose Castillo! Great, yet totally untapped power, spectacular defense along with insane mental lapses... what do you say Theo?Shush! Don't give Theo any ideas.