Boston @ Seattle Gabbard vs Hernandez June 26, 2007

[SamBam39]

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Gabbard
1-0, 3.60 (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_gamebygamelog.jsp?playerID=45125 7&statType=2)


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Hernandez
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Sox need to forget about last night and bounce back with a win! Gabbard looked pretty good the last time he pitched so let's get behind him for the Sox win.



Maybe tonight is the night Lugo becomes a major leaguer!

[fightingdoxies]

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Maybe tonight is the night Lugo becomes a major leaguer!

One can only hope

[nomars_girl]

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After a difficult stretch, Felix Hernandez comes into tonight's game hoping to pick up where he left off after his last start where he scattered six hits over 8 innings in a 3-0 win.

Kason Gabbard was recalled from Pawtucket to start in place of the injured Schilling. Gabbard went 7-2 with a 3.24 ERA in 14 starts with Pawtucket and also won a spot start on May 20 against Atlanta, allowing two runs over five-plus innings in a 6-3 victory.

[nomars_girl]

Well, I'm fired. I can't get this to line up.

GO SOX!!

[SamBam39]

Ummm I already started a game thread!!!!!

[SamBam39]

Red Sox
1. Coco Crisp, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Mike Lowell, 3B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Eric Hinske, LF
9. Alex Cora, SS
SP - Kason Gabbard
Mariners
1. Ichiro Suzuki, CF
2. Jose Lopez, 2B
3. Jose Vidro, DH
4. Richie Sexson, 1B
5. Kenji Johjima, C
6. Jose Guillen, RF
7. Adrian Beltre, 3B
8. Yuniesky Betancourt, SS
9. Willie Bloomquist, LF
SP - Felix Hernandez

Manny getting a night off and thank God Julio AA Lugo is getting some pine time!!!

[nomars_girl]

Can someone combine this with the other game thread? I wasn't sure of the protocol and new we needed a new starter since there was a loss last night.

[SamBam39]

Can someone combine this with the other game thread? I wasn't sure of the protocol and new we needed a new starter since there was a loss last night.
Actually there was no game thread started last night. I created one this morning after the game and then started this game thread! But it's all good. Mikie will combine the two.

[southcarolina]

Im here! And no one is here to take the computer from me!!!

[southcarolina]

OMFG.

Extra Innings + Picture in Picture = teh AWESOME!!!!!!!

[southcarolina]

W00t. bases loaded for Manny.



Ummm i mean Kyook.

[SamBam39]

sweet 1-0.

[southcarolina]

Scott Proctor imploding in Baltimore :D

[SamBam39]

Leave it to Nancy Drew! First out!

[southcarolina]

dammit.

[SamBam39]

What a friggin' waste!!!!!

[SamBam39]

I hope they do trade Lowell!!!

[southcarolina]

haha Proctorologist walks in winning run.

[southcarolina]

I hope they do trade Lowell!!!


Mike Lowell is slow.

[SamBam39]

K-ason!!!!

[theyellowdart]

Where is the Lowell of April & May?

[SamBam39]

Not so good on that sequence!!!

[SamBam39]

Where is the Lowell of April & May?That's his season. He's done. Get a first baseman and move Youks to third. Mark Texiera of the Rangers is available

[southcarolina]

The Mariners broadcast team remind me of this:

http://jeremy.zawodny.com/i/npr-balls.png

[southcarolina]

Sit on it Richie

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0301/ritchiec.jpg

[theyellowdart]

This is not going well... That first inning squander is going to loom large...

[SamBam39]

Oh for christs sakes!!!

[theyellowdart]

JFC.... Two walks and a HBP... come on man.... Just throw it down the middle.... This frustrates me more then anything...

[SamBam39]

This trip is ending on a disastrous note. Last night was a joke and all of a sudden Gabbard can't get an out.

[theyellowdart]

Looks like I a will be going to bed early... So it won't be all that bad..

[theyellowdart]

Wow... I feel like I am watching Protor...... You ****ing suck

[southcarolina]

Gabbard sucks tonight. Trade whatever is necessary to get Burhle.

[SamBam39]

phuck this.

[southcarolina]

I bet the first strike he throws ends up 450 feet away.

[southcarolina]

I blame Tim Wakefield.

[theyellowdart]

I blame Tim Wakefield.


Me too:)

[theyellowdart]

What a cocktease Gabbard is. Goes down 3-0 and comes back to make it 3-2 and walks him... Go back to AAA because you blow

[southcarolina]

F*ck.

22 balls. 17 strikes. 1 out.

[southcarolina]

Holy f"ck a giant hand reaches down from the heavens and lifts gabbard out of his hell.

[theyellowdart]

Lugo is due up 3rd this inning :icon_supe

That was really tough to watch... 3 runs 1 hit

Sox get 1 run on 3 hits.. That blows...

Edit: he is out of the line up.. my bad

[theyellowdart]

King Felix will now settle into this game...

[southcarolina]

No problem YD. One giant sucking offensive hole pretty much looks like another.

[Mikiemo83]

lucky lugo will start hitting tonight










hitting the bottle that is

[Mikiemo83]

ouch

[southcarolina]

http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/3/37/Kason.gif


No, F*ck YOU, Kason Gabbard.

[theyellowdart]

yikes... Gabbard having a tough time... looks like it is going to be 7 in a row in Seattle...

[theyellowdart]

http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/3/37/Kason.gif


No, F*ck YOU, Kason Gabbard.


LOL.... Hey Gabbard.... The Bucs suck and so do you...

[theyellowdart]

This Kid has nothing at all.... Will he be here for another start? I really hope not...

[southcarolina]

Longball and Willie Blumquist in the same sentence just seems wrong

[SlumpBustR]

why couldn't this be a NL road game so Tito could PH Lugo for Gabbard creating a new black hole/6th dimension effectively sucking both guys into the deepest abyss of suckitude in the universe from which there is no returning

I'm going to sleepy-bye now :icon_eyes :(

[southcarolina]

The Mariners announcers are definately smoking pot.

[southcarolina]

I'm going to sleepy-bye now :icon_eyes :(

I talked my wife into paying 159 dollars for EI, so now i am contractually required by her to watch this game in its entirety, lest i be accused of "wasting money"


They always get you in the fine print

[southcarolina]

SC Predicts Final Score of this game to be 15-14.

[theyellowdart]

We got something going here... This is rigth where it stalled in the first inning though...

[southcarolina]

Cmon Mike Lowell.

[southcarolina]

Oh **** me.

[theyellowdart]

Hell of a play by Lopez....

[southcarolina]

Check his glove. It must be corked.



/old softball joke

[southcarolina]

We should put together a SoxPlanet softball team. I'll play catcher.

[theyellowdart]

We should put together a SoxPlanet softball team. I'll play catcher.


I like LF... Lots of action out there... RG is our pitcher.. His stuff is nasty

[theyellowdart]

If he walks anyone else, my head might explode...

[theyellowdart]

This really sucks....

[theyellowdart]

The guy walks Hinske on 5 Pitches and Cora comes up there and hacks the first pitch for a double play... I hate this game

[southcarolina]

Alex Cora would have.....


Oh.



Nevermind.

[theyellowdart]

Bases Loaded again. No offense but I hope you don't make your next start up here...

[theyellowdart]

Sox win this game....

Hell of a job by MDC

[theyellowdart]

Felix really isn't all that good tonight... They should have a lot more runs of of him..

[theyellowdart]

April/May Lowell returns... Love you man... 4-4 almost
5-4

[southcarolina]

Willie Bloomquist is human after all.

[southcarolina]

Eric Mutha F'ing Hinske.

[theyellowdart]

I really didn't like giving them a out on that bunt.... They were hitting rockets off of Felix... It is up to Ortiz now...

[theyellowdart]

Ortiz is like Ichiro... Slapping singles all over the place...

[southcarolina]

I love david Ortiz. There i said it.

[theyellowdart]

This game isn't going to get over until 2, if we are lucky... This sucks... I think I have to go to bed but I have already came this far.. What to do, What to do....

[southcarolina]

I dont have to work again until july 8th :)

[southcarolina]

dammit

[southcarolina]

Coco!!!

[southcarolina]

Lowell walks, varitek sacrifices him to second manny ph for hinske and homers. paps in for the 123 bottom of the ninth and sox win.



simple

[southcarolina]

Oh well.

To even be in the game after gabbard sh*t the bed like he did was probably all we could ask for.

Go get 'em tomorrow.

[nomars_girl]

That is not at all how I thought this game would go. Since when do we score 7 runs and lose?

I can't believe I stayed up to watch that.

Goodnight all.

[nomars_girl]

So will they let Gabbard fly back with the team, or will they put him on a greyhound bus to wherever Pawtucket will be playing next?

[southcarolina]

So will they let Gabbard fly back with the team, or will they put him on a greyhound bus to wherever Pawtucket will be playing next?



LOL.

Maybe they will just release him in seattle and make him find his own way back.

:)

[luso2kx]

So Gabbard wasn't entitled to a bad start?

And we should also remember that Gabbard was solid in his last start vs. Atlanta.

Let's keep in mind that he is, in fact, a rookie. Rookies make mistakes, but I have confidence that Gabbard can toss some more solid starts.

[theyellowdart]

I just don't think that Gabbard has that great of stuff when he is on. I would say his ceiling is at best, a 4th starter. He will prolly be a 5th starter/mop up guy when it is all said and done. Over his minor league career, he has always had some trouble with the walks and that is never a good thing. Gabbard really isn't considered to be a very good prospect so nothing really to worry about here.

[nomars_girl]

I just don't think that Gabbard has that great of stuff when he is on. I would say his ceiling is at best, a 4th starter. He will prolly be a 5th starter/mop up guy when it is all said and done. Over his minor league career, he has always had some trouble with the walks and that is never a good thing. Gabbard really isn't considered to be a very good prospect so nothing really to worry about here.

I agree. He got the call-up this time because they don't intend to keep anyone up long term right and it won't bother the team to send him back and forth. They don't want to bring up Lester until they have a permanent spot for him. (And yes, I know Lester got shelled the other night).

[luso2kx]

I just don't think that Gabbard has that great of stuff when he is on. I would say his ceiling is at best, a 4th starter. He will prolly be a 5th starter/mop up guy when it is all said and done. Over his minor league career, he has always had some trouble with the walks and that is never a good thing. Gabbard really isn't considered to be a very good prospect so nothing really to worry about here.
In 2006, he had a .224 BAA and 1.22 WHIP in the miniors

This year he has a .235 BAA and 1.21 WHIP in the miniors

Where is this "walk trouble" you speak of?

Gabbard's a rookie, these bad starts WILL happen and I'm not about to throw him under the bus for it. We again forget his start against Atlanta earlier this year where he had a no-no going on early.

[luso2kx]

One more thing. If you guys want to throw Gabbard under the bus for a bad start, but are handing out excuses for Tavarez's last bad start...well, do I REALLY need to continue?

[theyellowdart]

Where is this "walk trouble" you speak of?


Your Kidding, right?

He has pitched 413.2 inning is the minors and walked 177 batters. That is 3.86 walks per 9 innings. He doesn't have dominating stuff so I would assume he is a control pitcher. Averaging over 1 walk for every 3 innings sucks, Especially for a "crafty" pitcher in the minors.

Bottom line is we shouldn't expect big things from him. Gabbard is a B prospect... Nothing wrong with that... He is what he is.

[luso2kx]

Your Kidding, right?

He has pitched 413.2 inning is the minors and walked 177 batters. That is 3.86 walks per 9 innings. He doesn't have dominating stuff so I would assume he is a control pitcher. Averaging over 1 walk for every 3 innings sucks, Especially for a "crafty" pitcher in the minors.

Bottom line is we shouldn't expect big things from him. Gabbard is a B prospect... Nothing wrong with that... He is what he is.
You do know that Jon Lester has so far pitched 453.2ip and given up 188 walks in his minor league career, averaging 3.73 walks every 9 innings.

Again, where is this "walk trouble" you speak of?

[theyellowdart]

Again, where is this "walk trouble" you speak of?

Lester has walk trouble as well... That has been well documented. The difference is that Lester has much better stuff. Very Bad Example. His upside far exceeds that of Kayson. Do you think 3.86 walks per nine inning is not a problem for a soft throwing left hander, really? Or are you just pulling my chain?

I am really confused...:icon_eyes

[luso2kx]

Lester has walk trouble as well... That has been well documented. The difference is that Lester has much better stuff. Very Bad Example. His upside far exceeds that of Kayson. Do you think 3.86 walks per nine inning is not a problem for a soft throwing left hander, really? Or are you just pulling my chain?

I am really confused...:icon_eyes
He's not too soft-tossing though. Fastball high 80's/low 90's.

That's actually typical lefty stuff. You can essentially count, on one hand, lefty pitchers who can hit mid to high 90's consistantly. And Lester is not on that list either.

[theyellowdart]

He's not too soft-tossing though. Fastball high 80's/low 90's.


I also guess that depends on the gun so who knows.... Your prolly right Anyways.. do we agree that he has been a little wild over his career or are you still on the other side?

I really like that you are defending him... It is good to disagree on things and have a healthy debate. I think you have done a pretty good job with your argument...Kodos :)

[luso2kx]

I also guess that depends on the gun so who knows.... Your prolly right Anyways.. do we agree that he has been a little wild over his career or are you still on the other side?

I really like that you are defending him... It is good to disagree on things and have a healthy debate. I think you have done a pretty good job with your argument...Kodos :)
Thanks. I had Gabbard as a darkhorse coming into the season. While he's not going to wow anyone, his Minor League stats would indicate that he'd be a bit of a lefty Frank Castillo (in his 1st year with Boston). Someone who won't blow people away, but will keep things close enough for the Sox to win. His stuff will surprise some.

[oldskool138]

...Kodos :)

Kodos?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n205/oldskool138/kodos.png

;)

[luso2kx]

From SoxProspects.com:

Scouting Report: Lefty suffered nagging injuries over his first few years in pro ball. When healthy, Gabbard has a high 80s sinking fastball that hits the low 90s with good location, along with a plus changeup and curveball which he mixes in very well. Mature with good mound presence.

Essentially, the reason he had some troubles early on was because of injuries, which dropped him to a lower ranking in the prospect list. But his stuff is actually better than alot of people think it is.

[southcarolina]

So Gabbard wasn't entitled to a bad start?

And we should also remember that Gabbard was solid in his last start vs. Atlanta.

Let's keep in mind that he is, in fact, a rookie. Rookies make mistakes, but I have confidence that Gabbard can toss some more solid starts.

Sure he's entitled to a bad start. Eveyone is. I dont think he is a rookie though. Im pretty sure he pitched last season in the majors too.

Fake edit: He indeed pitched in 7 games last season, starting 4 of them.

But lets not pretend that last nights start was anything more than what it was. The Sox werent going to burn an option on one of the real prospects for one emergency start. Gabbard fills the roll of "Minor league pitcher who, when he is out of options, the RedSox FO wont have any issues cutting ties with if another team claims him"

[luso2kx]

Sure he's entitled to a bad start. Eveyone is. I dont think he is a rookie though. Im pretty sure he pitched last season in the majors too.

Fake edit: He indeed pitched in 7 games last season, starting 4 of them.Still means he's a rookie according to official MLB rules:

Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).
Gabbard had amassed 25.2ip last season.

[southcarolina]

Whatever. :D